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Posted March 26, 2020
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Cirnovant: Corona happened and now im back playing PFKM. Haven't checked out the newest DLC and I haven't even finished the main quest yet(I just had my coronation).. Now I'm respeccing Nok-nok cause I need another meleer (this is because I hate Linzi which made me turn Valerie into my tank dirge bard)

So my build question is, for a TWF that uses kukri (i want to stay kukri cause kukri seemed fitting and nok-nok already has mother's care and warmth but i guess i could switch to another weapon type)?
should I go 20(not sure)? Slayer which lets me ignore dex, get twf feats easily and get studied target or
should I go 4 Knife Master, 16 vivisectionist? feral mutagen + buffs + all other goodies
What's your say on this? What's your pick? Thanks!
V16/KM4 is the thing I'd do. It's close to home with his archetype and is a lot better than his standard spec.Also gets you opportunist if you wait for KM4 till after V10, so you lose nothing at all.
PS. Stranded for a week now too xD.
Post edited March 26, 2020 by InEffect
Posted March 26, 2020
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Cirnovant: Corona happened and now im back playing PFKM. Haven't checked out the newest DLC and I haven't even finished the main quest yet(I just had my coronation).. Now I'm respeccing Nok-nok cause I need another meleer (this is because I hate Linzi which made me turn Valerie into my tank dirge bard)

So my build question is, for a TWF that uses kukri (i want to stay kukri cause kukri seemed fitting and nok-nok already has mother's care and warmth but i guess i could switch to another weapon type)?
should I go 20(not sure)? Slayer which lets me ignore dex, get twf feats easily and get studied target or
should I go 4 Knife Master, 16 vivisectionist? feral mutagen + buffs + all other goodies
What's your say on this? What's your pick? Thanks!
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InEffect: V16/KM4 is the thing I'd do. It's close to home with his archetype and is a lot better than his standard spec.
PS. Stranded for a week now too xD.
slayers are better rogues right? they also have higher bab and i could still take opportunist later on w/ advanced rogue talent.. and it lets me get greater twf earlier. i also get buffed by legendary proportions cause i use str to dmg (i dont remember but does proportion also give dex?).

or i could get 4 KM 16 slayer would that work too? or is 4 KM 16 Vivi just better?

stay safe XD
Post edited March 26, 2020 by Cirnovant
Posted March 26, 2020
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InEffect: V16/KM4 is the thing I'd do. It's close to home with his archetype and is a lot better than his standard spec.
PS. Stranded for a week now too xD.
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Cirnovant: slayers are better rogues right? they also have higher bab and i could still take opportunist later on w/ advanced rogue talent.. and it lets me get greater twf earlier. i also get buffed by legendary proportions cause i use str to dmg (i dont remember but does proportion also give dex?).

or i could get 4 KM 16 slayer would that work too? or is 4 KM 16 Vivi just better?

stay safe XD
Vivi gets mutagen and spells. Kinda hard to top that. And Vivi is also full bab cause he has transformation. Slayer is fine, but they are only really good if you go lawful deliverer, which is not the case here. That and slayer kinda wants to be STR based, which is not exactly goblins forte. And slayers also don't sport any sort of AC ramp, which Vivi offers in spades.
If you want to make him even better swap KM for scoundrel as that'd also provide you with mirror image at an acceptable cost and allow to spend gyronna elsewhere, although mirror will only happen at 14, so idk if that's worth it.
Post edited March 26, 2020 by InEffect
Posted March 26, 2020
guess vivi is just too good to pass up.. gyronna is the mirror image amulet right? im making sure he gets it so no worries.

anyway now i'm thinking of making a shield bash slayer (cause I really just wanna try slayer). which race would be the best? and stat spread?
Human (cause I need the feat? or is there a better race? like aasimar or tiefling maybe?)
Deliverer - Lawful Good. Deliverer is better right? Spawn Slayer is more thematic but i doubt there's that much gigantic mobs in the game..

18 str (or 19?)
14 dex? (not sure here..) im thinking i could take double slice if i go w/ the twf line? or do i just forget double slice entirley? unless there are other feats that require dex that imnot thinking of
7-13 int = no clue.. i dont need combat expertise right (unless i go the dex route)? will i be fine?
?? wis = dump? or 10?
7 cha = i dont intend to use this as my face or mc so im fine?

or should I go w/ the DEX route and dump str and take sword lord for finesse training? but then id have to dip in aldori defender so this isnt good. whats your pick / choice?

now my only dilemma is the main hand weapon. i haven't seen much of endgame content yet but what is the best 1h weap for this build?
Posted March 26, 2020
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Cirnovant: anyway now i'm thinking of making a shield bash slayer (cause I really just wanna try slayer). which race would be the best? and stat spread?
Human (cause I need the feat? or is there a better race? like aasimar or tiefling maybe?)
Deliverer - Lawful Good. Deliverer is better right? Spawn Slayer is more thematic but i doubt there's that much gigantic mobs in the game..
There is quite literally a build called slayer that is a shield bash build in the guide next door. that has all of the above wrapped and covered.
Posted March 26, 2020
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Cirnovant: anyway now i'm thinking of making a shield bash slayer (cause I really just wanna try slayer). which race would be the best? and stat spread?
Human (cause I need the feat? or is there a better race? like aasimar or tiefling maybe?)
Deliverer - Lawful Good. Deliverer is better right? Spawn Slayer is more thematic but i doubt there's that much gigantic mobs in the game..
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InEffect: There is quite literally a build called slayer that is a shield bash build in the guide next door. that has all of the above wrapped and covered.
ahh my bad. didn't see that one.

when you say +2 dex item is that referring to bokken's potion? what is the +4dex item? is this the varnhold's lot book?
i never knew those stat boosts counted for feats..
Posted March 26, 2020
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InEffect: There is quite literally a build called slayer that is a shield bash build in the guide next door. that has all of the above wrapped and covered.
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Cirnovant: ahh my bad. didn't see that one.

when you say +2 dex item is that referring to bokken's potion? what is the +4dex item? is this the varnhold's lot book?
i never knew those stat boosts counted for feats..
Nah. You quite literally just need any item that gives +2dex to take the feat. Only downside is the feat won't work if you don't meet the requirements, so either keep the item on or buff yourself.
Posted March 27, 2020
Hey, very cool builds :) Could you please help me make tanky kineticist(whatever subclass) without monk levels? Im playing on hard.
Posted March 27, 2020
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alwswannafly: Hey, very cool builds :) Could you please help me make tanky kineticist(whatever subclass) without monk levels? Im playing on hard.
TSS5/KK11/V3/Stalwart1, no mirror will be pita though.
Post edited March 27, 2020 by InEffect
Posted March 27, 2020
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alwswannafly: Hey, very cool builds :) Could you please help me make tanky kineticist(whatever subclass) without monk levels? Im playing on hard.
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InEffect: TSS5/KK11/V3/Stalwart1, no mirror will be pita though.
Thanks :) Any major differences from your Kinetic Valerie build?
Posted March 27, 2020
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InEffect: TSS5/KK11/V3/Stalwart1, no mirror will be pita though.
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alwswannafly: Thanks :) Any major differences from your Kinetic Valerie build?
Not really. There isn't much to be done. Fire is nice for abilities, but not mandatory. For hard one could try to stack Con and use synaptic for fun.
One could also make some funny shield bash trip build with something like KK11/V3/Archae2/DD4 motherless. Think I talked with someone who's done it ages ago.
Post edited March 27, 2020 by InEffect
Posted March 27, 2020
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InEffect: V16/KM4 is the thing I'd do. It's close to home with his archetype and is a lot better than his standard spec.Also gets you opportunist if you wait for KM4 till after V10, so you lose nothing at all.
PS. Stranded for a week now too xD.
Why V16/km4 instead of
https://www.gog.com/forum/pathfinder_kingmaker/ineffects_guide_v2/post148
which uses km12/v4/3slayer/1stalwart

have a change of heart about which is better? Both seem to focus on kurki's?
Posted March 27, 2020
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left1000: Why V16/km4 instead of
https://www.gog.com/forum/pathfinder_kingmaker/ineffects_guide_v2/post148
which uses km12/v4/3slayer/1stalwart

have a change of heart about which is better? Both seem to focus on kurki's?
Cause I assume no respec and he comes with 7 levels of rogue. I wouldn't be able to get him to transformation even if I tried, so adding 4full bab class levels to get an extra attack was all that was realistically possible. If you are respeccing - it's more profitable to go V16/KM4 to get the same results but with better everything. Guess I also could go 12 slayer/8rogue, but that has no AC ramp at all and would peak at 20, which is not exactly ideal.
Post edited March 27, 2020 by InEffect
Posted March 28, 2020
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InEffect: RP/dw/Dueling swords for RedCope

Race: Aasimar(Musetouched)

Alignment: LE(I just feel it’s fitting. Any non-neutral will do, also LE is the best for kingdom management stuff)

Stats:
Str: 10
Dex: 19 > 24
Con: 14
Int: 12
Wis: 10
Cha: 16

Final Build: Rogue* 4/Fighter(Aldori Defender) 10/Slayer(Spawn Slayer) 6
*Can be thug if you have someone else to dazzle. Enemies running around are not always fun.

Main skills: Mobility 3, Persuasion (Max), Trickery(18), Perception(Max)
Suggested secondary skills: Athletics 1+, Stealth 1+

Lvl 1: Rogue - Dodge
Lvl 2: Rogue - Combat Trick > Improved Unarmed Strike
Lvl 3: Rogue - Crane Style // Finesse Training: Dueling Sword
Lvl 4: Rogue - Combat Trick > Two-Weapon Fighting
Lvl 5: Fighter - Dazzling Display // Outflank
Lvl 6: Fighter - Crane Wing
Lvl 7: Fighter - Improved Two-Weapon Fighting
Lvl 8: Fighter - Double Slice
Lvl 9: Fighter - Shatter Defenses // Heavy Blades
Lvl 10: Fighter
Lvl 11: Fighter - Improved Critical: Dueling Sword
Lvl 12: Fighter
Lvl 13: Fighter - Greater Two-Weapon Fighting // Effortless Dual-Wielding // Heavy Blades
Lvl 14: Slayer
Lvl 15: Slayer - Wings // Combat Trick > Crane Riposte
Lvl 16: Slayer
Lvl 17: Slayer - Weapon Focus: Dueling Sword // Combat Trick > GWF: Dueling Sword
Lvl 18: Slayer
Lvl 19: Slayer - Accomplished Sneak Attacker // Combat Trick > Weapon Specialization
Lvl 20: Fighter

Gear: Bloodhound+Arcane enforcer, Oppressor, Paragon of Defenders, Gyronna amulet, Stat belt, Gloves of valor, Bracers of deflection, Castigator/Absolver cloak, Opportunist’s Boots, Dreamer ring, Ring of Circumstances(+Dex,+AC,+Skills,+Speed)

Pretty straight-forward build. Nothing too unusual about it. Finish prologue in 30 days to get +2 Dueling Sword. Use dueling sword+light weapon(arcane Protector would work nicely) till lvl 13.

Sinse unspecified I assumed you have all DLC’s.
I cant get Dazzling Display at Lvl 5:Fighter.Am I missing something?Im new here sry. Correct me if Im wrong but think I need Weapon focus for that feat right? btw love your build man, you are true mvp for new player like me.
Posted March 28, 2020
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InquisitorDoge: I cant get Dazzling Display at Lvl 5:Fighter.Am I missing something?Im new here sry. Correct me if Im wrong but think I need Weapon focus for that feat right? btw love your build man, you are true mvp for new player like me.
I see where I messed up.

Lvl 1: Rogue - Dodge
Lvl 2: Rogue - Combat Trick > Improved Unarmed Strike
Lvl 3: Rogue - Crane Style // Finesse Training: Dueling Sword
Lvl 4: Rogue - Combat Trick > Two-Weapon Fighting
Lvl 5: Fighter - Weapon Focus: Dueling Sword // Outflank
Lvl 6: Fighter - Crane Wing
Lvl 7: Fighter - Improved Two-Weapon Fighting
Lvl 8: Fighter - Dazzling Display
Lvl 9: Fighter - Shatter Defenses // Heavy Blades
Lvl 10: Fighter
Lvl 11: Fighter - Improved Critical: Dueling Sword
Lvl 12: Fighter
Lvl 13: Fighter - Greater Two-Weapon Fighting // Effortless Dual-Wielding // Heavy Blades
Lvl 14: Slayer
Lvl 15: Slayer - Wings // Combat Trick > Crane Riposte
Lvl 16: Slayer
Lvl 17: Slayer - Double Slice // Combat Trick > GWF: Dueling Sword
Lvl 18: Slayer
Lvl 19: Slayer - Accomplished Sneak Attacker // Combat Trick > Weapon Specialization
Lvl 20: Fighter

There. That should be alright.
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