rickbuzz: Hmm does bite force you into close range though? That's kind of what I want to avoid with this character, though tripping is always fun, supposing you can get the tripping cloak in the roguelike dungeon (not the version of the dungeon for the main campaign, which also means LG robes aren't a consideration).

What about some ideas that don't use Vivi as the primary class?

Twilight5007: Guess I'm looking for a damage focused sorcerer build. Bloodlines don't really matter to me, I use the eldritch arcana mod., I would prefer to have some fun aoes to mess with and not just all rays if possible. Difficulty is normal and the group is lvl 9 atm.

InEffect: there are 2 feats for wands for magus. One of those allows to use your casting stat instead the min one, the other allows to use those with spell combat. Bad news are there is no way to craft wands in the game and you can't bring CL to your level as you would with scroll savant.
Best bet would be going max Cha Scion that you already kinda want to do and hoping you get good wands from the artisan(that also has problems as you are better off taking rods from her). Overall, not worth it, but doable.
Maybe max int base Magus would work too as he could grab profane staff from varn DLC to ramp his wand DC's bit higher.

Cirnovant: Thanks and yeahh its sad.. compared to the "niche" builds like scroll savant, wands didn't even seem to get some love/support.

Now i'm wondering how would I go building the best tank w/ good touch def and isn't armorless (heavy armor + tower shield preferred).

How would I proceed w/ this?(probably w/ high dex??) I just got sick of seeing all this monk/duelist robe wearing "tanks". I kind of want a "traditional" tank in an mmo/rp sense that they wear heavy armor, go ahead the party first, are immovable (high saves) and the sight of them in their ironclad armor generates threat that either taunts enemies or makes them flee(intimidating).

Honestly it doesnt make sense (to me) that these armorless/dodgy tanks are doing way better than your average "armored to the teeth" guy but I guess that's how the devs want it. Kind of reminds me of the usual STR vs DEX meme.

jintegrity: Not sure this is feasible, but something along the lines of Vivi 2 (Feral Mutagen)/Invuln Rager 2 (Animal Fury)/ Eld Scion 1 (Electric Dragon for Shocking Grasp Synergy, perhaps?)/DD 4 for all the bites you could ever want as a Motherless Tiefling?

Obviously doesn't have to have those classes, so long as I'm maximizing the amount of bites I can get while maintaining a character that doesn't die instantly while abusing cloak.

jintegrity: - so trying to get 4 bites isn't worth it? Was wondering, if instead of going the weapon route, if there was a way to stack Sneak Attack dice, while maintaining enough AB to reliably hit things, to make it a viable alternative.

bochnerd: Thank you! You’d go Glaive over Fauchard? Would that change if EE adds a better fauchard selection?

InEffect: Shifter Druid for kreative_katt

Race: Human
We need the feat more than we need some stats

Alignment: LN*
*More on that later

Stats:
Str: 17
Dex: 14
Con: 12
Int: 11
Wis: 16
Cha: 10

Final Build: Monk(Traditional) 1/Druid(DotTW) 16/Barbarian(Mad Dog) 1/Fighter 1

Main skills: Mobility 3, Persuasion Max, Perception Max
Suggested secondary skills: You have 36 points spare. Lore Nature is thematic to max and maybe Athletics.

Detailed leveling breakdown:
Lvl 1: Monk - Weapon Focus: Claw // Dazzling Display // Crane Style
Lvl 2: Druid - Animal Companion*
Lvl 3: Druid - Combat Expertise (Need +2 Int item)
Lvl 4: Druid
Lvl 5: Druid - Natural Spell
Lvl 6: Druid
Lvl 7: Druid - Outflank
Lvl 8: Druid
Lvl 9: Druid - Shatter Defenses
Lvl 10: Druid
Lvl 11: Druid - Trip
Lvl 12: Druid
Lvl 13: Druid - Greater Trip
Lvl 14: Druid
Lvl 15: Druid - Persuasive
Lvl 16: Druid
Lvl 17: Druid - Fury’s Fall
Lvl 18: Barbarian
Lvl 19: Barbarian - Blind Fight
Lvl 20: Fighter - Intimidating Prowess

Important Spells:
Lvl 1: Acid Maw, Cure Light Wounds, Firebelly(Good early for swarms)
Lvl 2: Aspect of the Bear, Restoration, Barkskin(Becomes obsolete once you get Legendary)
Lvl 3: Magic Fang(Greater), Spike Growth, Resist Energy(Communal), Delay Poison(Communal)
Lvl 4: Spike Stones, Cape of Wasps, Thorn Body, Protection from Energy(Communal)
Lvl 5: Aspect of the Wolf, Geniekind, Animal Growth
Lvl 6: Tar Pool, Cure Light Wounds(Mass)
Lvl 7: Legendary Proportions, Creeping Doom, Heal
Lvl 8: Seamantle, Frightful Aspect

Gear: To tank you would need: Dreamer Ring, Ring of Circumstances(STR, DEX, WIS, AC) Gyronna Ammy/Amulet of Mighty fists, Absolver/Catigator cloak, +8 hat/belt, +8 Armor Bracers, Bokken Elixir

Alignment first: You will need at least some shifts here. You start as LN and should move to TN. That would technically be enough for the build, but not really. From there you should move to either NG or NE for absolver/castigator cloaks, because those are awesome and rings slots are precious. Shouldn’t be too hard because said cloaks will be sold in the 2nd part of the game by Pitaxan merchants.

Mad Dog is there so you have something extra to ramp your AB. Druids are not exactly spectacular in that department and Shape-shifting won’t cover for that. At least not enough.

Amulet of Mighty Fists and Magic Fang totally do stack. To wear Mighty fists or Gyronna depends on difficulty. On anything, but unfair Gyronna is not needed to break unhittable AC.

Few words about buffing: All buffs we selected do stack on top of animal form, but some of them do not transition from human to animal form. Easiest solution would be to buff in animal form and be a happy panda. Quite literally.

Aspect of the wolf is why we take trip feats. Don’t forget to right-click the trip ability you get from it after casting.

Natural Progression of forms Wolf -> Leopard -> Bear -> Smilodon is pretty much how you want to roll anyways.

Does have dazzling and shatter, Although does prefer someone else to use Dazzling due to average persuasion.

Assumes you do exploit Exp for level 20, but should be ok-ish without.
To use combat expertise or not is up to you. Depends on difficulty and if you need those points of AC to become unhittable at any point.

Skipped Lvl 9 spells as there is literally nothing of interest for us there.

The damage isn't great, but there is nothing that can be done about it.

There you have it. It CAN reach 70 AC for unfair, but Shifter druid is not what I’d realistically play there and he will lose too much AB in the process, but it's possible, I guess.