DSMTyralion: Hi InEffect,

I have another question:

Is there any reason in the game why I want to use shortswords? Do they give something usefull or special? I read your Effordless Fighter above and remembered a dual-shortsword-fighter a friend of mine played in a real RPG. Would this be of any value?

thx for helping everyone out!!

melty.984: I have one more question, you seemed really unsatisfied with the Universalist Wizard/AT that you made for someone, would you be willing to post your vision aka the "perfect" min/max one sometimes in the future? (Doesn't have to be now as I would really like to play Sorc for now due to not having to prepare spells.)

Grochol92: Hello again :]
Can You tell me it's possible to make playable swashbuckler rogue archetype dd/tank with two rapiers? Or there are no good rapiers in game? Ahh and it's a rogue so ofc dex build. Its no mater what race U will use. If its possible, can You make it for me?

InEffect: Sylvan Sorc for melty.984

Role: Control/Damage Dealer

Race: Human
Alignment: Lawful-Good

Stats:
Str: 7
Dex: 18
Con: 14
Int: 7
Wis: 8
Cha: 19 > 24

Final Build:
Sorcerer(Silvan) 18/Monk(Scaled Fist) 1

Animal Companion: Smilodon

Main skills: Mobility 3, Persuasion(max)
Suggested secondary skills: UMD or Stealth

Detailed leveling breakdown:
Lvl 1: Sorcerer - Point-Blank Shot // Spell Specialization // Spell Focus: Conjuration
Lvl 2: Monk* - Crane Style
Lvl 3: Sorcerer - Precise Shot
Lvl 4: Sorcerer
Lvl 5: Sorcerer - Greater Spell Focus: Conjuration
Lvl 6: Sorcerer
Lvl 7: Sorcerer - Heighten Spell
Lvl 8: Sorcerer - Dodge
Lvl 9: Sorcerer - Crane Wing
Lvl 10: Sorcerer
Lvl 11: Sorcerer - Spell Focus: Evocation
Lvl 12: Sorcerer
Lvl 13: Sorcerer - Greater Spell Focus: Evocation
Lvl 14: Sorcerer - Metamagic(Quicken Spell)
Lvl 15: Sorcerer - Crane Riposte
Lvl 16: Sorcerer
Lvl 17: Sorcerer - Improved Critical: Ray
Lvl 18: Sorcerer
Lvl 19: Sorcerer - Toughness
Lvl 20: Sorcerer - Improved Initiative
*Take whenever, but no later than 9

*Spell Specialization:
Grease>Glitterdust>Stinking Cloud>Acid Pit>Hungry Pit>Chain Lightning>Stormbolts

Spells by level in order of importance:
Lvl 1: Entangle*, Grease, Reduce Person, Mage Armor, True Strike, Shield
Lvl 2: Glitterdust, Mirror Image, Scorching Ray, Sense Vitals, Burning Arc
Lvl 3: Stinking Cloud, Haste, Displacement, Fireball
Lvl 4: Animate Dead, Acid Pit, Dimension Door, Enervation
Lvl 5: Cloudkill, Hungry Pit, Echolocation, Angelic Aspect
Lvl 6: Chain Lightning, Chains of Light, Heroism(Greater)
Lvl 7: Legendary Propoertions, Waves of Exhaustion, Firebrand, Changestaff*
Lvl 8: Stormbolts, Seamantle, Frightful Aspect, Summon Nature’s Ally VIII*
Lvl 9: Foresight, Tsunami(or clashing rocks)
*You will get this as a Bloodline spell, don’t have to pick it.

Gear: Arcane protector x2+Cha Helmet, Monk Robes(Or whatever else you want), +stats, +AC items.
Looks good enough. Still not a tank(till late-game), but has good transition into Evo and bug abuse on his side but tbh you can always dtop 1 arcane protector and get the benefits of crane wing anyways, so not even that.

InEffect: I just don't like generalists. They lose a spell slot for nothing. It's easy deal to drop enchantment+something. In that case likely abjuration. Pretty much the savant build, but with a few chages. Glutton works fine as well.

InEffect: it is possible... I guess. If you have varn DLC that is. Rapiers present in the game are nothing spectacular, but they are ok.

InEffect: I just don't like generalists. They lose a spell slot for nothing. It's easy deal to drop enchantment+something. In that case likely abjuration. Pretty much the savant build, but with a few chages. Glutton works fine as well.

melty.984: Just out of interest, is the Savant build you posted viable for Hard/Unfair? Any chance you could post the revised version as well for future reference? I'm interested in adding it as a merc to my current party. (Doesn't need to have Merc stats). Though I don't want to be greedy and take too much of your time.

InEffect: swapped chains of light for sirocoo, cause heightened vinetrap does the same job.

jimmybackman: As I mostly enjoy front-line characters as my main I were curious if you could make a good wizard focusing on spells buffing himself(and his allies ofc) enough to be a competent back/frontline fighter?

InEffect: I mean, sure if you want it. It would be total garbage compared to sorc doing the same, though, but EK is right there. Something that would be passable for challenging can be done.