Erelah: @nomander
I played the Wizardry Series when it came out as it came out. When all the art was line art. I do not recall game breaking bugs. The same with the Gold Box CRPGs when they game out (not resold) there were not any game breaking bugs. When you move to more modern games such as Troika in Vampire: Bloodlines the reason why that game was a bugged filled mess is the studio who made it was on its way out of business. They published a unfinished game as they ran out of money. (One of the first player created patches was restoring backgrounds and other things left our due to the rush to publish before they went out of business.)
Wizardry gold was littered with enormus bugs (it was a major complaint about the game), not to mention, Wiz 7 DoS had some bugs that were also game breaking depending on what version you had. The Gold Box games had various bugs as well, some even game breaking (ie being trapped in a room, infinte combat loops, etc...).
Point is, bugs existed and in many games it was a major issue. ToEE and Arcanum had some MAJOR game breaking bugs at release that needed to be patched. Many games of the time did. Not everyone experienced them, but they existed none the less.
Point is, bugs existed back then and while there may be some lax attitudes today in the development of games, the ideaa that somehow this game is "different" is a misleading tale of bias evaluation.
nomander: We should defend any and all developers who "honestly" attempt to realize the "ideal" of this type of gaming, even if they crash and burn. That is not to say we should defend blindly, but with an evaluation of honest intent and effort on their part with a certain amount of expectation of responsibilty.
Hickory: Support, yes, but not defend. You cannot or should not, defend indefensible positions. Anybody, individual or company, who makes a mistake should be given the chance to atone for or amend that mistake, but the mistake itself should never be defended. Thats the road to mediocrity. Make aware; make good.
I didn't say defend the indefenisble.
I said they were repairing the game in a regular manner and that the game having bugs is not somehow uncommon to games in the past to which the poster claimed.
I don't defend their failure to release a bug free product, rather I defend the fact that bugfree is a false tale told by ignorance or motive, not fact and that to attack and complain over the issue serves motive and individual narcicism only.
Bugs exist in all games. The developers have already shown they are diligently working on it. People can sit around complaining and ignorantly whining about how this game is somehow "different" than the decades of games who have had bugs previously, or... they can report the bugs, hold off on playing, or help others on solutions to get around them as they occur. Anyting more than that is simply looking to gain attention.