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I've had a few new ships & multitools and find myself having to grind over and over again for the upgrades I used to have. I'm thinking it's not worth getting a new multitool or ship unless it has a significant amount of new inventory space. What do you guys do?

Anyone know how much of the resources you get back when dismantling upgrades? Doesn't seem to be much. It would be great if we could transfer upgrades between ships and multitools.
In the early stages get a multi-tool only for cosmetics- Cos you like the look of it.

However, later (much later in my case), I found a really nice multitool with like 4 extra slots- It looks like a rifle! Not quite the colour I like, but I couldn`t pass it up.

New ships I`ll grab if they`re better even if just one slot , as long as its not too painful as in one case I wrote in my `Don`t get cocky, kid` thread...
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Herrick: I've had a few new ships & multitools and find myself having to grind over and over again for the upgrades I used to have. I'm thinking it's not worth getting a new multitool or ship unless it has a significant amount of new inventory space. What do you guys do?

Anyone know how much of the resources you get back when dismantling upgrades? Doesn't seem to be much. It would be great if we could transfer upgrades between ships and multitools.
I watched a video with tips before the PC version came out. You Dismantle the upgrades you want to keep before you trade. That's why I won't just take a multitool. You can't dismantle you upgrades and keep them. the Multitool just disappears. I won't do it. It's the same with ships.

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Post edited August 19, 2016 by misscrabtree456
i still use minimum inventory same multitool and ship after 10 hours of gameplay i test things and heving fun doing it to i dont heve problems with lag and stuff i heve a grade time in the game. after the new patch ill start over and heve more fun. ohh lol my english is not the best but i try my best im dutch
I found the best way for multi-tools is whenever you see one that has more slots then what you have buy it. Each time you buy a multi-tool with more slots, you can buy a multi-tool with more slots. I'm up to 24 slots for my multi-tool.

I have 42 slots for my exosuit, you just go from drop pod to drop pod to upgrade that.

For ships, you find crashed ships that have more slots then what you have then exchange ships (it is free) and repair the shield and engines (flight part of the ship), don't bother fixing anything else but don't go to space (pirates), then you find another crashed ship with more slots than you have, and rinse and repeat.
Post edited August 19, 2016 by cyion
I just got done getting a new one with 2 more slots. I wrote down the elements I needed for my upgrades. I got the elements, go to install upgrade and it's not there. WTF I stripped my old MT, to the bone before I got the new one. Plus the upgrades were there after I got it, since I choose the upgrades I wanted. This sucks.
Anything with more slots.
I go through new multitools pretty quickly - I think there's a controlled progression such that each new one has one or two more slots than your current one. My current one has 24 slots. New ships are a much more gradual process; I rarely come across a crashed one that is better than my current one, so instead I save up and buy them.
I missed the chance to upgrade my starting multitool in my first system, and in the second system there just aren't any. I'm in the third system now, so hopefully my luck will change.
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cyion: I found the best way for multi-tools is whenever you see one that has more slots then what you have buy it. Each time you buy a multi-tool with more slots, you can buy a multi-tool with more slots. I'm up to 24 slots for my multi-tool.

I have 42 slots for my exosuit, you just go from drop pod to drop pod to upgrade that.

For ships, you find crashed ships that have more slots then what you have then exchange ships (it is free) and repair the shield and engines (flight part of the ship), don't bother fixing anything else but don't go to space (pirates), then you find another crashed ship with more slots than you have, and rinse and repeat.
Hi Cyion. I remember another thread where you suggested this. I've been trying it but I have a hard time finding ships and when I do, they're always worse than what I have. So I'm trying to save up for a really good one.

Same thing with the Multitools. They're almost always worse than what I have. I did get lucky a little while ago when a Korvax gave me a better one.

I just dread having to grind over and over again for these damn upgrades. I hope I get at least half of the materials back from dismantling upgrades. Haven't tried it yet.
Post edited August 19, 2016 by Herrick
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Herrick: I've had a few new ships & multitools and find myself having to grind over and over again for the upgrades I used to have. I'm thinking it's not worth getting a new multitool or ship unless it has a significant amount of new inventory space. What do you guys do?

Anyone know how much of the resources you get back when dismantling upgrades? Doesn't seem to be much. It would be great if we could transfer upgrades between ships and multitools.
Yeah that is my biggest complaint for this game (all the drama aside) that you are stuck in this constant loop of upgrading your ship and multitool just before you find a better one and you have to start all over again. After a couple of times this does get annoying I think, especially when you're not in a system that provides all the resources.

The unfortunate thing is that I think this is very deliberate, otherwise you would run out of things to do very quickly in this game.

The problems is that you can't really get around it because you only find ships that are 1 or 2 slots more than you current one. So there are two things you can do.

1: Find ships/multitools over and over again without doing anything else until you've grinded to the max level ship/multitool without ever upgrading the old ones.

2: Find ships/multitools and upgrade every ship/multitool while doing other stuff with the downside that you have to do a lot of mining in total.
Post edited August 19, 2016 by DukeMcFishy
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Herrick: I've had a few new ships & multitools and find myself having to grind over and over again for the upgrades I used to have. I'm thinking it's not worth getting a new multitool or ship unless it has a significant amount of new inventory space. What do you guys do?

Anyone know how much of the resources you get back when dismantling upgrades? Doesn't seem to be much. It would be great if we could transfer upgrades between ships and multitools.
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DukeMcFishy: Yeah that is my biggest complaint for this game (all the drama aside) that you are stuck in this constant loop of upgrading your ship and multitool just before you find a better one and you have to start all over again. After a couple of times this does get annoying I think, especially when you're not in a system that provides all the resources.

The unfortunate thing is that I think this is very deliberate, otherwise you would run out of things to do very quickly in this game.

The problems is that you can't really get around it because you only find ships that are 1 or 2 slots more than you current one. So there are two things you can do.

1: Find ships/multitools over and over again without doing anything else until you've grinded to the max level ship/multitool without ever upgrading the old ones.

2: Find ships/multitools and upgrade every ship/multitool while doing other stuff with the downside that you have to do a lot of mining in total.
Yeah it does get annoying. I don't want to spend 50 hours on one or two planets grinding for upgrades so I've been trying to make it a bit more interesting by continuing the Atlas Path and checking out each planet.
Upgrades are ok but not really necessary in my experience, definitely not worth the trouble of building until you have equipment you you'll keep for a while.

In the early stages, i'd rather not have upgrades and change stuff whenever you get the chance to gain slots.

I didn't build any upgrades at all until I had the best ship/tool. In fact, even my 48 slot ship still flies with the pre-installed upgrades (many of them damaged, didn't bother to repair) because I am still waiting to find a model I like (see other thread). Once I've got "my perfect ship", I'll upgrade it properly but space fights are so easy, I don't even really care.
The thing I want the most is a properly stacked warp drive upgrade so I can start speeding towards the centre but even there, I'll just do it when I've got my final ship.
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Regals: Anything with more slots.
Not necessarily, i just turned down a 2 slot upgrade multitool. It didn't have a Plasma Grenade Launcher. I use that all the time.I can due without a Boltcaster but not without a Plasma Grenade Launcher. So I had to let it go.
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Regals: Anything with more slots.
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misscrabtree456: Not necessarily, i just turned down a 2 slot upgrade multitool. It didn't have a Plasma Grenade Launcher. I use that all the time.I can due without a Boltcaster but not without a Plasma Grenade Launcher. So I had to let it go.
I turned down ships and equipment with more slots in the beginning as well but I quickly learned that this is not the way to go. Always take equipment and ships with more slots. The reason is this:
The procedural algorithm will (at least in my experience) always generates replacement equipment that has a range of 1 slot less to 2 slots more than what you have (at least for ships, might be a bit different for tools).

For example, if you have a ship with 25 slots. Any ship wreck that you can find will have between 24 and 27 slots. So the way to gradually improve is to always update to the ship with more slots because if you take the replacement ship with 26 slots (even if it has worse upgrades and lot's of damaged stuff) the next wreck you find will have 25-28 slots. So this is how you improve. I didn't test quite as much with Multitools but I am 99% certain it's the same deal.

And slots are the only thing that really "sticks". You can always replace/make upgrades but this is the only way to improve slots.

Note: You can of course go faster by buying ships from traders but especially with 35 slots and above, they get so ridiculously expensive that farming ship wrecks will be way faster than farming enough units to buy a better ship.

Multitools, you can buy since they are not as expensive (I think a 24 slot Multitool only costs about 180.000 Units) but I think even when buying, the range of slots that are for sale depend on your current equipment (it's just that the range is much wider, e.g. I had a 17 slot tool and I could buy a 24 slot one).

Hope that info is helpful. Of course, this is only for people who try to upgrade efficiently. If you don't care and are happy to progress more slowly, never mind.
Post edited August 20, 2016 by MrFob9138