I second what goodaltgamer said in post 60.

That is not true, and you know it. You get a copy of the Classic version if you buy the EE game, but the soundtrack is not included anymore (they removed it when they started selling the soundtracks separately). If you bought the classics before the EE versions were out, you still have the soundtrack included with those. You just don't get it via the EE version.

The copy of the classic version you claim via the EE version doesn't show up on your shelf either. It is just treated as an extra under the EE version.

Stop telling lies, please.

And Beamdog trying to keep the legacy of those games alive? Come on. Those games were the highest selling games on GoG even after the EE versions came out. The legacy was very much alive. Beamdog just bundled them so they could get all the income from both versions.

And fixing bugs? The classics, on GoG, were bug free. Never played them, did you? The EE versions, however, are still a buggy mess and they get biggier each time Beamdog patches them.

If you love the EE games, great. But don't lie about them to get people to buy them or support Beamdog.

https://s7.postimg.org/sn2wblua3/beamdog_soundtrack.png No soundtrack here....just an installer for the classic game. Nothing else.

You don't get this version on your shelf if you install it via the EE version either.

Neverwinter Nights 1 is one of the games I actually can't get to work properly on my computer at all (after reading the PC Gaming Wiki article on it and extensive Google searches). Only way I could get it to even display properly was some really hacky borderless window mode workaround.

Even after spending all the time figuring out that the game looked like shit because I had to run it at 1280x720 on my 2560x1440 monitor for the UI to be readable and 3D graphics do not scale well.

Just saying that people who buy Neverwinter Nights now to save a few bucks might be in for a negative surprise. If you don't want the Enhanced Edition I think your money is better spent towards an entirely different game altogether.
The right image in your attachment is sharper while you in your post claimed it should be blurry. So which is it? Were you expecting redrawn assets? Because Beamdog isn't promising that (and people would be upset about them if they did anyway)...

At any rate, double sizing (integer scaling) is cheap, but it's also the only scaling method that 100% accurately reproduces the source image. It's a very valid approach and desired by many. A common complaint about Beamdog's other Enhanced Editions is their blurry scaling. Sticking to integer scaling pretty much fixes that. Ideally they would offer both as options (and we don't know that they won't), but their current choice isn't a bad one. Just not what you want personally.
Baldur's Gate II? Bug free? I play through Baldur's Gate II on a yearly basis and each time some script bug breaks a major quest. Saying Baldur's Gate II is bug free is pretty revealing about who here hasn't played it...

Beaten it 20 times, round about. Never run into any bugs on the GoG version. If it had bugs, I never experienced them.

Experienced loads with the EE version though. And the bugs increased per patch. Especially after the 2.0 patch. All you have to do is read the reviews of the EE versions of this very site. Bugs galore.

You're extremely lucky then. Doesn't change the fact that Baldur's Gate II is very far from bug free.

When you claim that the right side image isn't blurry, that really only makes it look like you are shilling for Beamdog. They are both a blurry mess and anyone with eyes can see that.

The point wasn't only that double size hack is blurry, it was that it also isn't versatile. There is no scaling for people running on 1920x1080 laptops which is a common complaint.


Which doesn't change the fact that the EE edition introduced more bugs than it fixed.

Wow, just full on apologist.

People who aren't Beamdog shills, can see the original Beamdog image:
https://www.beamdog.com/assets/products/31917/original/11.jpg?1511224942

It was just as blurry before I cropped it.

Could be, yes. Still....the EE version are miles more buggy than the classic ever was. Which is kind of the whole point. The EE version is a way more buggy. New bugs introduced every time they patch it. The only thing it does better than the classic is to dumb the game down for casuals. Like letting the player know by shading out portraits, which characters can't use this and that weapon etc.

Default scripting turned on too. No need to cast spells yourself. The game just does it for you. It wastes those spells, sure. But it is there for the "new fans".

Well first of all, please don't call me a liar. Before I posted my message I have actually done a test with IWD:EE. I went in the goodies section and claimed the IWD classical edition. It DID appear on my shelve and the soundtrack is downloadable from it's "back-up and goodies" section. So everything I've said is true. This is the case for me, I don't know how it is with others. Did it happen to you? Or you just base your facts on hearsay?

On the other hand I've played BG saga since 2001 plenty of times. I have the boxed edition of both BGs and IWD. I have the classical ones on GOG and the EEs on Steam/GOG/Beamdog. So I am a fan of the games. I've played many versions, and TODAY I still prefer the EE version above the others. This is due to all their small improvements they did in order to try to "modernize" the game. This may not be to your liking, that's fine. But it works for me.

The decision to bundle the games was announced months before it happened so anybody who wanted to buy the classical ones could have done it many times. I've never seen a game so much on sale as the classical BG/IWD on GOG. They were even available for 1+ euro at one time or another. I don't think there is a hardcore fan who doesn't already own it GOG. So why all this bitching? I would definitely direct new gamers to the genre to the EE versions.

And yes, without Beamdog this game would not receive any updated content. Sure, there are mods, but they are not the answer to all the problems and needs. There are mods for EE as well.

And why the hell are you so full of hatred and spiteful. You resemble too much a troll in both your attitude and replies. I don't think there is reasoning with you, so you might as well ignore me from now on.

peace.

I don't know what it is, but to classify here a bit, some people running AMD versus Nvidia do have more (or less) problems and visa versa, just depending on the game. Quite often dgvoodoo is helping. But I, myself, still haven't figured out what, even the dev of dgvoodoo doesn't know for sure. (for the games were it helps).


Hence I guess why GOG did retract WIN10 support on some games, yes speculation to a certain degree.....

BUT one problem for sure is Win10, just saying......

The soundtrack is showing in you Classic game shelf because you had already bought the classic before it got bundled with the EE version. They can't remove the soundtrack from a product you have already paid for.

They have removed the soundtrack for the classics when you get them via the EE version now, though. The fact that you "just tried this" proves that you already had the Classic version in your library (which you said you did too so...). The soundtrack removal won't affect anyone who whad bought the classic version before the bundling.

So...you said you already had the classic version before you got the EE version. That means it is impossible that you could add the Classic version to the shelf via the EE "extras". Since it is already there. You don't get two classic IWDs on your shelf. So...yeah. Your story does not add up one bit. In fact it is a blatant lie. I tried it out. If you have the classic game already on your shelf....nope. You can't add it to your shelf again. And since you said you already had the classic.....


Yeah the descision to bundle the game was made right after Siege of Dragonspear flopped. They bundled the BG games right after that happened. They claimed it was WOTC who made the descision. They claimed this for about a year or so. Then they started to claim GoG had done it. And once it was revealed that they had been lying all the time, and it was Beamdog who was behind it all, they had to post a public apology right here on GoG. They even had employees running around in here spreading mis-information about their products, and how they were sold.

https://www.gog.com/forum/baldurs_gate_series/regarding_the_removal_of_the_original_ie_games_from_sale_on_gog/page1 It is all here. Links to their lies and screenshots of their lies are included. This is the company you are defending, by the way. Try thinking about that for a bit.

Actually I provided lots of arguments for my points. They countered your lies. Now you are just butthurt and you are trying to play the "you are a mean troll card".

It is not trolling when the person provides evidence for his claims. You got called on your BS. Facts revealed your untruths. That is what happened.

That has nothing to do with NWN1.

GoG supports NWN1 on Win10 and I tested it myself.

Vanilla install of GoG NWN Diamond on clean install of Windows 10 and it worked perfect, right away. I didn't have to change anything.

People run into issues mostly because they have screwed up sound/video drivers.

Win 10 is absolutely a problem. Yes. You just need to turn on the Direct Play (or whatever it is called) in the windows settings, and most games work like a charm though.
NWN1 works fine on Win 10 here too. Never had an issue with it. Had trouble with other games though.

Did I say it must be the case with NVN? although is there not a thread about cloak not working on certain drivers, right? (AMD<->against Nvidia and god knows which model involved?)

Hey, it could even be the monitor model involved, so the inf-file.....guess what...more than one possibilty and not screwed up by themselves but the producers......I spent quite some hours with one guy here trying to juse his Samsung 4k for it, guess what, it is the samsung inf.file, Samsung even (indirectly) says so on their own homepage...no, couldn't help him, as they put tons of rubbish into the inf file for a monitor.....like sound bar info and and and.....no clear references and so on. (IIRC the inf-file was 300KBYTE!!!!)
see other comment of mine ;)

oh you now what....I found on a MS forum, that directplay was supposed to be taken out with one of the patches, but they had to rethink this decision...

Oh and NEVER ever install into program files (x86)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Windows can not handle it, it is supposed to be for 32 bit applications....but.....MS, I don't think I have to say more