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good lord, the ignorance in this thread is overwhelming...I'm not quite sure if I'm on the GOG forums or a Tea Party rally.
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eightohfive: good lord, the ignorance in this thread is overwhelming...I'm not quite sure if I'm on the GOG forums or a Tea Party rally.
What's so ignorant about a tea party rally?
Haha. I can just see a GoG employee running all the games through Neverlock before they are uploaded to the site.
Wow, I bought the game too a couple of hours ago, i just got to the 4th track and noticed the error. Should I send a support ticket too? ._.
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BainsteR: Wow, I bought the game too a couple of hours ago, i just got to the 4th track and noticed the error. Should I send a support ticket too? ._.
Definitely yes. The GOG guys don't really check the forums for issues like this, so the only way they ill find out about it and the severity of it is if everyone who gets the error sends in a support ticket.
There, i sent a support ticket. This is kind of disappointing :/
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cogadh: EDIT - Hmmm. You probably meant an official statement about this particular game, not a statement about the use of cracks in general, didn't you?
Both, but especially in general. They could put it here: http://www.gog.com/en/about

It's something that should be clear right from the start!
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eightohfive: the ignorance in this thread is overwhelming
why? if i'd simply want a craked version, i'd download it somewhere else. GOG has lots of this premium-content-drm-free-we're-all-gamers-bla-bla AND - more important - WE ALL PAY MONEY FOR THAT, they should be supposed to do a better job like any other site.
Post edited November 29, 2010 by doc_dos
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cogadh: EDIT - Hmmm. You probably meant an official statement about this particular game, not a statement about the use of cracks in general, didn't you?
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doc_dos: Both, but especially in general. They could put it here: http://www.gog.com/en/about

It's something that should be clear right from the start!
Why? What purpose does knowing how they removed the DRM serve? It doesn't change anything about the games themselves; it doesn't make them any less playable (well, except possibly in this case), there are no legal or moral ramifications of it, there are no safety concerns. All that matters is the DRM is gone, as they claim to already do on that page.
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eightohfive: the ignorance in this thread is overwhelming
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doc_dos: why? if i'd simply want a craked version, i'd download it somewhere else. GOG has lots of this premium-content-drm-free-we're-all-gamers-bla-bla AND - more important - WE ALL PAY MONEY FOR THAT, they should be supposed to do a better job like any other site.
You posted this while I was relying

What do you expect to get? Even if GOG did not use cracks to remove the DRM and instead did all the work themselves, you'd still be getting the exact same thing. There are only so many ways to remove DRM when the source code is not available, so even if GOG didn't use one of the existing cracks, the method they would use to remove the DRM would very likely match one of those cracks exactly.
Post edited November 29, 2010 by cogadh
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lrmcba: If gog solved this issue please let us know because i want buy but i wil not until gog
solve this.
2nded.
I still have my original disk, but digital would be nice.
Wont buy until I hear this has been proerly resolved.
I'd just expect a company to do more for my money than just applying a crack - i can get this anywhere else for free.

If a crack is the last resort to remove DRM, GOG should be open about it, and not just settle with a statement on page 9 of some game-specific thread.

Besides, how would you know if it's not a security issue? On arcanum, it was simply discovered. Now Moto Racer, it's a bug already. What makes you sure it isn't malware next time? Since obviously GOG's QA ain't for the best...
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doc_dos: I'd just expect a company to do more for my money than just applying a crack - i can get this anywhere else for free.
Yes, and you could steal food from supermarket.
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tejozaszaszas: Yes, and you could steal food from supermarket.
Which would be pretty inconsequential if we could replicate food from nothing...

Finite goods do not compare well with "infinite" goods, especially in regards to theft.

(And if we could do that, supermarkets would immediately go out of business, regardless of "theft")
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doc_dos: I'd just expect a company to do more for my money than just applying a crack - i can get this anywhere else for free.

If a crack is the last resort to remove DRM, GOG should be open about it, and not just settle with a statement on page 9 of some game-specific thread.

Besides, how would you know if it's not a security issue? On arcanum, it was simply discovered. Now Moto Racer, it's a bug already. What makes you sure it isn't malware next time? Since obviously GOG's QA ain't for the best...
You are not paying for the crack, you are paying for the game, rather than "stealing" it from a site like Abandonia (there is no such thing as "abandonware", it is really all just software piracy). The use of a crack is just part of the whole removal of DRM/ensuring compatibility that GOG does. Again I ask, if there is no source code/gold master, what exactly would you have GOG do? Not sell the game at all? Release it with the DRM intact?

Again, there is no need to be open about it, there is really nothing being hidden here. When a game has source code or a gold master available, then GOG takes care of packaging it without the DRM. When there isn't, a crack might be used. It is not a "last resort", it is just part of the process. I don't understand why anyone would be surprised by this. It seems to me that you are concerned over nothing here.

Performing a QA test on a game has nothing to do with verifying that an executable is not a security risk, they are two separate processes. I can be certain that this is not a security risk because GOG verifies that all their games are malware free prior to releasing them and at the same time, of the thousands of customers GOG has, at least some of them must run their own anti-malware scans. If any one of GOG's files were a security threat, we would know about it almost immediately. We've already seen that when one or two of their game installers produced a "false positive" alert from a particular anti-virus product (the anti-virus company admitted it was on their end, not GOG's). Besides, any company that doesn't take that simple step of running their files past a virus scanner before releasing them publicly is just asking for their business to fail. GOG is smarter than that.
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cogadh: GOG verifies that all their games are malware free prior to releasing them and at the same time, of the thousands of customers GOG has, at least some of them must run their own anti-malware scans. If any one of GOG's files were a security threat, we would know about it almost immediately.
Please can we dub this "GoG-AV"? :)
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doc_dos: I'd just expect a company to do more for my money than just applying a crack - i can get this anywhere else for free.

If a crack is the last resort to remove DRM, GOG should be open about it, and not just settle with a statement on page 9 of some game-specific thread.

Besides, how would you know if it's not a security issue? On arcanum, it was simply discovered. Now Moto Racer, it's a bug already. What makes you sure it isn't malware next time? Since obviously GOG's QA ain't for the best...
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cogadh: You are not paying for the crack, you are paying for the game, rather than "stealing" it from a site like Abandonia (there is no such thing as "abandonware", it is really all just software piracy). The use of a crack is just part of the whole removal of DRM/ensuring compatibility that GOG does. Again I ask, if there is no source code/gold master, what exactly would you have GOG do? Not sell the game at all? Release it with the DRM intact?

Again, there is no need to be open about it, there is really nothing being hidden here. When a game has source code or a gold master available, then GOG takes care of packaging it without the DRM. When there isn't, a crack might be used. It is not a "last resort", it is just part of the process. I don't understand why anyone would be surprised by this. It seems to me that you are concerned over nothing here.

Performing a QA test on a game has nothing to do with verifying that an executable is not a security risk, they are two separate processes. I can be certain that this is not a security risk because GOG verifies that all their games are malware free prior to releasing them and at the same time, of the thousands of customers GOG has, at least some of them must run their own anti-malware scans. If any one of GOG's files were a security threat, we would know about it almost immediately. We've already seen that when one or two of their game installers produced a "false positive" alert from a particular anti-virus product (the anti-virus company admitted it was on their end, not GOG's). Besides, any company that doesn't take that simple step of running their files past a virus scanner before releasing them publicly is just asking for their business to fail. GOG is smarter than that.
I disagree with you, Codagh. I really think there is abandonware, sofware that is not being sold. Abandonia has a certain policy, at the time ta game is being sold they retire it from servers. Here´s an example:

http://www.abandonia.com/es/games/10811/Blood.html
Abandonia links you to GOG, so they make them free publicity, since it´s available here the ROM was retired from servers.
Original developers of any game like them to be played, and there´s a kind of abandonware that doesn´t go against ethics.