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You mean, we are responsible for all the games since then, because we didn’t shoot up to #1 in the charts and show that a game that treats women properly can actually sell?

P.S. Don’t forget that despite the title, you can win the game as Queen of Dragon Pass.

P.P.S. The next iOS release will be adding another female character.

Unfortunately skimpy clothing is the oldest, easiest and cheapest marketing medhod there is. Sex sells.

Or fortunately, depending on your point of view.

I've never been a fan of the fantasy-chainmail-bikini thing myself, though (for men or women).

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It's a fantasy universe, so even though there are obvious influences from real-world cultures (eg Vikings), the game doesn't have to portray women as you would expect to see in an actual Iron Age clan.

I'll chime in to say that I agree completely. The portrayal of women in the game was very refreshing. Of course, in the world of video games "Not completely awful" is refreshing.

I don't have much faith in the industry catching up for a long time, honestly.

I play lots of games where we are treated fairly, as well as aren't running around in thongs and high heels. Simulators, Role Playing games, Adventures. For me it's common to play a game that isn't sexist or devalue's a human being in anyway.

I do wish there were more sports games though. I'd so love to play a WNBA, Softball, or any other. I don't see this ever happening. When I see everything around me, everything in video games and on the video games internet sites, as well as what words and the stuff that comes out of the video game players themselves. Nope, that's not going to happen.

Don’t give up hope. Things are certainly bad, so bad that it will take years. So you all need to keep up the pressure.

And I’m certainly going to keep hiring women to work on games and trying to treat them well, and depict women reasonably in games.

Version 2.3 (for iOS) will be adding another woman with her own story, and she will be quite different from Kallyr.

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Yes, it was very refreshing to see this. The women in the game behave like real people rather than props. I like that men and women have different roles in the clan, but women aren't presented as lesser or as second class citizens (arranged marriages notwithstanding).

In my last playthrough, I had a lot of highly-talented male nobles and I ended up making an all-male clan ring. I was surprised and delighted to discover that doing this reduces your clan magic - you have to have at least one woman on the ring at all times if you want your clan to flourish!

Marriage is arranged for all partners. And there is a scene about a priestess (OK, she is probably high enough status to arrange her own marriage) trying to arrange a marriage with one of your weaponthanes.

There are two areas that can’t really be equal:

The couple has to live somewhere, and that is almost always the husband’s clan*.

And the children have to belong to a clan, which is the clan they live in (i.e. the husband’s clan).

* 2.3 on iOS will have a scene that offers an alternative.

Yanloth (the joker) is the funniest character in the whole game. I can't believe how great this game is at normalizing women in all positions of society.

While testing the upcoming iOS update, one of my advisors said this (responding another ring member’s advice). Made me think of this thread.