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Just wanted to say that I'm really dissapointed in the community of this site that decided to not only review bomb this game, but also vote on these one sentence review bombs reviews to be "helpful". I thought you were better than this.
In addition, review bomb "reviews" should be marked by default as not being helpful by gog.com or a similar measyre. Otherwise they're supporting review bombing, which would make me dissapointed in them as well.

Review bombing is, to be frank, dumb. You tank a score and hide the legit helpful reviews that actually talk about and review the game for something that is nothing more than a juvenile shitpost. You're misusing a system.
It doesn't matter if there is a valid point somewhere in the entire review bomb event, review bombing has no place.
One of the key reasons why Steam reviews are so utterly terrible and useless is precsiely for reasons like this.
I am legit just as dissapointed in the SJWs as in this community for crying out just for one word in a soap and A FREAKING OFF CAMERA ASSET. Seriously... if this game starts flopping and nothing like it is ever made again.... we have the community to thank, not even the SJWs
Thing is, no one is review bombing because of the soap bottle or the Discord screenshots.

Bad reviews (and refund requests) come from people disappointed by the developer and publisher caving in to a pure nontroversy.

People are genuinely in love with Ion Fury 1.0 and its humor and don't want it to be taken away in case a patch is needed for compatibility with OS updates or whatever.

The developer is screwed more from this than they would if they didn't cave in. This kind of game spreads by word of mouth and definitely won't sell from anti-outrage to this anti-outrage for the original outrage. But it looks like the publisher, 3D Realms, calculated this and thought "ok, we can bin Ion Fury to sell more of what we're releasing later". It's Voidpoint who got screwed. They would probably prefer not to patch anything, and gain loyal fanbase in the process. And those review bombs hurt them and them only, and we love them, don't we? :(

PS. What off-screen asset? Is there something like a map or sprite file name that's offensive, or something? I need to know! ;)
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Lamieur: PS. What off-screen asset? Is there something like a map or sprite file name that's offensive, or something? I need to know! ;)
There is a nonsensical message in an out of bounds area in one map.
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Lamieur: People are genuinely in love with Ion Fury 1.0 and its humor and don't want it to be taken away in case a patch is needed for compatibility with OS updates or whatever.
You still have the release version you can DL and I doubt people are so upset they can no longer play and enjoy the game after any potential irrelevant changes.

If anything, it's the potential act people are upset by. But by reacting in an immature manner (partially involving review bombing) you're not helping your case.It's not as bad an non-sensical as when some clowns attacked the Level Designer for Wolfenstein Youngblood for microtransactions, but the principle is the same.
The more irrational and juvenile people behave, the less serious people will take the complaints, which almost always eclipses the more reasonable people forming a proper case in the riht manner.

Either way, review bombing is never ever good.
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JoshWilliams1711: I am legit just as dissapointed in the SJWs as in this community for crying out just for one word in a soap and A FREAKING OFF CAMERA ASSET. Seriously... if this game starts flopping and nothing like it is ever made again.... we have the community to thank, not even the SJWs
The SJWs aren't even part of the game's community. They're just moral outrage hobbyist busybodies who never planned to buy the game anyway and just want something to complain about.
Post edited August 23, 2019 by scarasyte
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Reviews are only useless if you don't read them or don't know how to read. Consumers don't have a lot of power, especially once they have spent their money, so this is only a natural reaction. Buying a product isn't supposed to be supporting Marxist indoctrination and "reeducation programs", funding alternate lifestyle agendas and promoting censorship, which are all things that the publishers have attached to the product.
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kmanitou: Reviews are only useless if you don't read them or don't know how to read. Consumers don't have a lot of power, especially once they have spent their money, so this is only a natural reaction. Buying a product isn't supposed to be supporting Marxist indoctrination and "reeducation programs", funding alternate lifestyle agendas and promoting censorship, which are all things that the publishers have attached to the product.
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zheprime: Just wanted to say that I'm really dissapointed in the community of this site that decided to not only review bomb this game, but also vote on these one sentence review bombs reviews to be "helpful". I thought you were better than this.
In addition, review bomb "reviews" should be marked by default as not being helpful by gog.com or a similar measyre. Otherwise they're supporting review bombing, which would make me dissapointed in them as well.

Review bombing is, to be frank, dumb. You tank a score and hide the legit helpful reviews that actually talk about and review the game for something that is nothing more than a juvenile shitpost. You're misusing a system.
It doesn't matter if there is a valid point somewhere in the entire review bomb event, review bombing has no place.
One of the key reasons why Steam reviews are so utterly terrible and useless is precsiely for reasons like this.
It's amazing, isn't it?

The rest of the development team is alerted to some nonsense that one guy did, it didn't reflect the rest of the team, which is leading to the edits, but because the left and right are essentially two sides of the same coin, so-called gamers are acting like the very people they claim to be against.

Honestly, I can't say I'm surprised. We're in an age that's only one step away from being huddled in our tribes like fucking cavemen. I can, however, say I'm dissapointed.

Here's what everyone is pissy about.

Also, the main point of contention.

Look at kmanitou's post on this very thread talking about "reeducation programs," and "funding alternate lifestyles" (Voidpoint is donating 10K to The Trevor Project, which helps LGBT teens at risk of suicide). I think THAT'S the real issue here, the "censorship" angle is just a smokescreenn.
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zheprime: Just wanted to say that I'm really dissapointed in the community of this site that decided to not only review bomb this game, but also vote on these one sentence review bombs reviews to be "helpful". I thought you were better than this.
In addition, review bomb "reviews" should be marked by default as not being helpful by gog.com or a similar measyre. Otherwise they're supporting review bombing, which would make me dissapointed in them as well.

Review bombing is, to be frank, dumb. You tank a score and hide the legit helpful reviews that actually talk about and review the game for something that is nothing more than a juvenile shitpost. You're misusing a system.
It doesn't matter if there is a valid point somewhere in the entire review bomb event, review bombing has no place.
One of the key reasons why Steam reviews are so utterly terrible and useless is precsiely for reasons like this.
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RawSteelUT: It's amazing, isn't it?

The rest of the development team is alerted to some nonsense that one guy did, it didn't reflect the rest of the team, which is leading to the edits, but because the left and right are essentially two sides of the same coin, so-called gamers are acting like the very people they claim to be against.

Honestly, I can't say I'm surprised. We're in an age that's only one step away from being huddled in our tribes like fucking cavemen. I can, however, say I'm dissapointed.

Here's what everyone is pissy about.

Also, the main point of contention.

Look at kmanitou's post on this very thread talking about "reeducation programs," and "funding alternate lifestyles" (Voidpoint is donating 10K to The Trevor Project, which helps LGBT teens at risk of suicide). I think THAT'S the real issue here, the "censorship" angle is just a smokescreenn.
Repeating disingenuous rebuttals only works with ideologues. Was that screenshot supposed to show evidence of some thoughtcrime or h a t e crime that was worth throwing a successful game in the garbage?
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RawSteelUT: but because the left and right are essentially two sides of the same coin, so-called gamers are acting like the very people they claim to be against"
Stop making this out to be a right wing vs left wing issue. It's moral outrage hobbyists vs everyone in the world. You make it sound like all gamers are right wingers.... I find that laughable.
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kmanitou: Reviews are only useless if you don't read them or don't know how to read. Consumers don't have a lot of power, especially once they have spent their money, so this is only a natural reaction. Buying a product isn't supposed to be supporting Marxist indoctrination and "reeducation programs", funding alternate lifestyle agendas and promoting censorship, which are all things that the publishers have attached to the product.
Reviews are useless when they're not even proper reviews. Like giving a game 1/5 with the words "Don't censor your games" doesn't tell the reader ANYTHING about the game itself.
You're not answering any relevant questions like "How does it play?", "How buggy is it?", etc.

And you're not displaying any "power" here, you're just being anti-consumer while deluding yourself that you're pro-consumer when you review bomb.

When 14 of the top 15 "Most helpful" reviews are useless review bombs all going on about the same (frankly irrelevant in a review) thing like censorship and not talking about the game itself or answering relevant questions then it's a problem.
Review bombing is just a way for less rational people to vent their frustration while misusing a review system that ultimately is anti-consumer. Not only that, you overshadow the more rational people arguing for the same case which can give publishers/devs a scapegoat to point to. You're not helping anyone.
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zheprime: You still have the release version you can DL
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by reacting in an immature manner (partially involving review bombing) you're not helping your case
It's not my case, I'm not about to join the review bombing or request a refund.

I only explained to the poster above that it's not the SJW side review bombing, but only the anti-censorship people (and I thought they're just people being for freedom of art, but in this thread I seem to detect an actual homophobe, or just someone unaware what the $10k donation was for, which is a suicide hotline, an objectively good thing, no one can be against that)

And from your post I see we're in perfect agreement that it's the developer who's hurt by this.

But there is a big difference from attacking a Wolfenstein artist (who in no way contributed to the game being bad, or having microtransactions! Attacking her was simply idiotic!) and leaving bad review of a game you don't like for whatever reason.

Review bombing is aimed at companies, so while it's still stupid in this particular situation, a least it's aimed at the right target.

And yes, I said in my post, because this is GOG, no one can take my game from me, so I don't see a reason to complain about an update, even if it ends up being really bad (not just soap bottle, let's say they remove half of Shelly's lines and half the posters and change place names and whatever), we will still have our awesome game. GOG FTW!

ALSO! Someone on YouTube pointed out that whatever changes are made, someone will probably make a mod restoring old textures and stuff, as the engine is open for modding and it will be really trivial to do.

So we're double-safe and it's only logical to give the game a 10/10 review because it won't stop being awesome, ever :)
Post edited August 23, 2019 by Lamieur
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zheprime: When 14 of the top 15 "Most helpful" reviews are useless review bombs
You know you MIGHT have a point here, but for this.. this line right here. The number of reviews dont matter so much if the collective community has spoken by promoting them like that. Just saying.
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kmanitou: Reviews are only useless if you don't read them or don't know how to read. Consumers don't have a lot of power, especially once they have spent their money, so this is only a natural reaction. Buying a product isn't supposed to be supporting Marxist indoctrination and "reeducation programs", funding alternate lifestyle agendas and promoting censorship, which are all things that the publishers have attached to the product.
what do you mean by Marxist indoctrination?