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Posted May 11, 2017
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If you believe any of those rose tinted, nostalgia induced reviews and want to buy any of these games... don't!
Here's what will happen. Fanboys will tell you this is the greatest western RPG series ever made. You'll buy either G1 or G2 or all of them.
Smart as you are, you'll then download and install every patch known to exist. Then you'll realize that, on top of archaic controls, you'll have to deal with constant crashes and bugs. For example, you will try to finish one of the earliests quests, only to realize you can't finish it, because the game will crash wit an "access violation" EVERYTIME you try to enter a certain area.
You will then google your heart out and try every solution proposed. Only to realize that none of them work.
You then will regret the money you spend when you could have just played Morrowind or The Witcher.
Or, you'll heed my advice and refrain from buying any of these games and save yourself some bucks and a lot of sanity.
Seriously, i tried Gothic 1 and Gothic 2 and tried every solution known to man and both games crash constantly on modern systems (in case of G1 game breaking even).
Don't trust those reviews. They're not real reviews, in a sense, as it is 2017 and most people use Windows 8.1 or (shudder) Windows 10.
Posted May 12, 2017
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smek2: If you believe any of those rose tinted, nostalgia induced reviews and want to buy any of these games... don't!
Here's what will happen. Fanboys will tell you this is the greatest western RPG series ever made. You'll buy either G1 or G2 or all of them.
Smart as you are, you'll then download and install every patch known to exist. Then you'll realize that, on top of archaic controls, you'll have to deal with constant crashes and bugs. For example, you will try to finish one of the earliests quests, only to realize you can't finish it, because the game will crash wit an "access violation" EVERYTIME you try to enter a certain area.
You will then google your heart out and try every solution proposed. Only to realize that none of them work.
You then will regret the money you spend when you could have just played Morrowind or The Witcher.
Or, you'll heed my advice and refrain from buying any of these games and save yourself some bucks and a lot of sanity.
Seriously, i tried Gothic 1 and Gothic 2 and tried every solution known to man and both games crash constantly on modern systems (in case of G1 game breaking even).
Don't trust those reviews. They're not real reviews, in a sense, as it is 2017 and most people use Windows 8.1 or (shudder) Windows 10.
Played it for years - not at all buggy. Sounds like a problem with your setup.
Posted May 12, 2017
I am currently playing Gothic 1 with the DX11 mod attached to it. The only crashes I got are ones related to me using the DX11 mod, and even then it is rare. Before I started to use the DX11 mod, I just played the game as is and it never crashed on me at all, nor did I have any bugs.

My system:
Windows 10
GTX 1070
i7-4770k
12GB Ram

Nothing overclocked.
Using latest drivers

To smek2, perhaps all your crashes and access violation errors are related to you using the mods available for the game that do warn you that crashes and access violations can happen and to save often.

What certain area are you trying to enter that keeps on crashing on you?
Posted May 17, 2017
"If you believe any of those rose tinted, nostalgia induced reviews and want to buy any of these games... don't! "

I don't want to be one of those people who responds to a tech-supportish forum with a "well, MINE works just fine," but yeah, mine works just fine.

Also, I wanted to give a defense to the game: Aside from a brief dalliance with G3 in 2008, I have no nostalgia for the series, and never played the 1 &2 before this year. Having done so, however, I've fallen in love with them, especially 2, and so my 5-star reviews are sincere and nostalgia-free.
Posted May 27, 2017
Absolutely agree, but not so much for the bugs.

Mechanically, these are some of the worse games ever produced. It is unfortunate, because I can see how the developers meant well and wanted to create something deeper than usual hack-an-slash combat.

Unforunately, all that resulted was mechanics which penalise the player to impossible degrees, and make the game completable only by exploits or bows and arrows.
Posted May 28, 2017
Gothic 1 and 2 are great games. They're so good I like to replay them every few years.
Posted May 28, 2017
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UniversalWolf: Gothic 1 and 2 are great games. They're so good I like to replay them every few years.
Yeah; me too but I include III in that .
Posted June 20, 2017
They run fine for me. Windows 10. I just finished Gothic 2 + NotR a few days ago. 91 hours of playtime and had maybe 3 crashes, and those were related to the D3D11 renderer mod I was using.

I have no nostalgia for them, etiher, as I played and beat Gothic 1 in 2014, started Gothic 2 in 2015, revisited it recently and finished it. They are still excellent RPGs. They don't make them like this anymore.

Heading to Gothic 3 soon. Can't wait.
Post edited June 20, 2017 by fluent2332
Posted June 22, 2017
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smek2: If you believe any of those rose tinted, nostalgia induced reviews and want to buy any of these games... don't!
Here's what will happen. Fanboys will tell you this is the greatest western RPG series ever made. You'll buy either G1 or G2 or all of them.
Smart as you are, you'll then download and install every patch known to exist. Then you'll realize that, on top of archaic controls, you'll have to deal with constant crashes and bugs. For example, you will try to finish one of the earliests quests, only to realize you can't finish it, because the game will crash wit an "access violation" EVERYTIME you try to enter a certain area.
You will then google your heart out and try every solution proposed. Only to realize that none of them work.
You then will regret the money you spend when you could have just played Morrowind or The Witcher.
Or, you'll heed my advice and refrain from buying any of these games and save yourself some bucks and a lot of sanity.
Seriously, i tried Gothic 1 and Gothic 2 and tried every solution known to man and both games crash constantly on modern systems (in case of G1 game breaking even).
Don't trust those reviews. They're not real reviews, in a sense, as it is 2017 and most people use Windows 8.1 or (shudder) Windows 10.
I hope you someday come back and have a better experience with these games, smek2. I love this series to death.
Posted June 23, 2017
I you wanna play a generic easy "RPG", yes gothic isn't for you. But if you wanna have a true RPG experience, then gothic is for you.
Posted June 24, 2017
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bushwhacker2k: [...] I love this series to death.
Me too.
Posted June 29, 2017
I've never played a Gothic game in my life but just recently got Gothic 3. I've played it for about 2-3 hours now and I'm enjoying it. It feels like a mix of Two Worlds and Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. It's not perfect but it's an enjoyable non-linear, open world RPG.
Posted September 07, 2017
I believe it's just the matter of taste.

Some consider Skyrim as the *Greatest* game ever created.
Its a good game, but Daggerfall is much better in my opinion then any other TES.
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Gothic for it's time, (2001) was a great leap in graphics. The first demo of the game was released in 1997 and look like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDUDxlPs8gk
Post edited August 23, 2019 by gogwitcher300
Posted September 18, 2017
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theinkandpen: Absolutely agree, but not so much for the bugs.

Mechanically, these are some of the worse games ever produced. It is unfortunate, because I can see how the developers meant well and wanted to create something deeper than usual hack-an-slash combat.

Unforunately, all that resulted was mechanics which penalise the player to impossible degrees, and make the game completable only by exploits or bows and arrows.
Funny, I completed them without exploits and barely using the bow... And I just love the way my character fights terribly at first; it only makes it all that much more satisfying when I become a badass later.

I really wish Piranha Bytes had stuck to their guns on that design choice, it's simply brilliant.
Posted September 18, 2017
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theinkandpen: Absolutely agree, but not so much for the bugs.

Mechanically, these are some of the worse games ever produced. It is unfortunate, because I can see how the developers meant well and wanted to create something deeper than usual hack-an-slash combat.

Unforunately, all that resulted was mechanics which penalise the player to impossible degrees, and make the game completable only by exploits or bows and arrows.
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Truehare: Funny, I completed them without exploits and barely using the bow... And I just love the way my character fights terribly at first; it only makes it all that much more satisfying when I become a badass later.

I really wish Piranha Bytes had stuck to their guns on that design choice, it's simply brilliant.
I do understand what he's saying, though. One meets the orcs way before one is ready for them so often one has to rely on standing on the seige equipment (in II) where they can't get you, etc.
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