Guy you're being kind of rude, when you did write something that could be read the way he is implying. You replied to someone asking about 2.00 beta, with a reply saying, "It used to be beta". With a follow up of everyone having to "eventually" migrate to the new launcher. Your post does come off as if you're calling GOG Galaxy 2.0 not beta and that everyone transitioned to 2.0 once it left beta. Which it has not, but if that is not what you mean then so be it, but why not just explain this and move on instead of flinging mud and insulting people calling them ignorant and other rude things. If not that just stop posting and move on. Neither party wins anything for getting the last word in...

WHOOSH!

After I clarified what it meant and the stipulation with it, it's rude for one to keep beating a dead horse. You would know what I meant. That is the kind of thing that pisses people off. Continuing to make the contention of semantics is inexcusable.

Yeah, it says "beta" on the fine print. You know that can be interpreted in a number of ways, right? Your disconnect is the fact that this thread was written before 2.0 was currently in "Open Beta". This is the biggest difference between how it was then, and how it is now, as it was basically in closed beta when this thread started, and was about to transition out so that the old launcher would go unsupported per the original concern.

Stay out of it.

You are now proving my point with this whole "whoosh" and "Stay out of it" stuff.

Guy, you really should rethink things and move on. As you could have just not thrown mud and moved on, but you continue to do just that. I'll be moving along now, because this whole thing is just as stated pointless. You're throwing a tantrum like a child in a supermarket, for nothing, but to get a last word as if you've won something, lol.

You have a nice day or not since you're clearly only here to be rude to others and try to get a rise out of them from it.

No. The fact you just got here with a brand new account to condescendingly tell me to "move on" when you were not involved in the first place, unless you're a sock account, is doing nothing but pissing me off. I didn't prove your point, and you're making it worse with the accusation. Do not lecture me about being "rude" when you're the one butting in. It's not a competition. You're making an argument of everything when I already explained what I was talking about in the first place.

Enough!

The fact that you think "new account" is even remotely close to having anything resembling relevance to the conversation only reinforces the negative opinion people are clearly forming about you. If you want the topic to be over, you can always drop it yourself. Nobody will keep replying to you if you don't keep being an antagonistic jerk to people and give us reason to call you out on your BS.

When I asked people to stop dropping in with the abusive remarks, that was not a suggestion.

Further - since you have failed to understand what I was talking about and have resorted to arguing semantics, here is what is going on:

Of course the thing says "beta" on it's documentation. I can already see that. But instead of asking me to clarify what I meant and I went ahead to give you a rudimentary analysis of what this was about, you still attacked me, as well as the other person.

Here is the problem - scroll down to the bottom of the page. There's a purple button. Click it. It gets you to download the 2.0 executable. Now, click here: https://www.gog.com/galaxy

There's lines it mentions 2.0 is on Open Beta, but the rest are blatant ad blurbs. However, there is a lot where it doesn't mention it, so the overall impression is questionable under certain context. This page used to host the 1.2 version. That is long gone. Another clue of the shift to 2.0. They're obviously pushing 2.0, and per the latest complaints, this push means that 2.0 is more of the official version of the client than the 1.2 version. In fact, once again as I mentioned, 1.2 was being phased out, which is what is happening now.

Open the 2.0 Galaxy client. There's notes it is a Beta. However, the reason I say it is not is because the nature of the beta itself is questionable. Between the treatment of 1.2 and the push for development of 2.0, the latest client GOG is only concerned about for now is 2.0. Further examination upon the app reveals another layer to the so-called beta. Yes, that is right, there's another beta version of Galaxy. Wildly confusing isn't it?

It would be hard to keep track of the two betas, which presents a problem. So far, this is not unlike the Steam client; there's basically an alpha build, and the one you normally are downloading/using is the stable release. The idea which it ends up a stable release also exists in place of the fact there's already an existing beta build would make it too confusing to call both "beta". So, I've naturally rejected that the current client is the beta build, so I wouldn't even come close to calling it beta.

1.2 has been virtually shelved from support, and certain people can also use the pre-build of the "beta" client, which would trickle down to the bottom once they approve a release with the changes they put into it. It's beta in name only, because the whole thing is experimental in nature, but not the process. You might as well say the Steam client is all beta because they've also pushed experimental content. But that also hasn't been called a beta client, that's reserved for a different build.

That was my whole point, and you're decidedly trying to call out my "BS" while whizzing past the facts. And you wonder why I'm frustrated as hell at your ignorance and the people who decided to attack me like I'm the abusive one? Good grief!

You might want to go back and re-read the conversation, notice that nothing you've said here actually contradicts me, or negates any of the points I made, and if you're really lucky, realise you're the one who reacted aggressively and has been picking every fight you've ended up in here. none of the "abusive" remarks have come from anyone but you until after you started it with the person in question. Nobody has been even as rude to you as you were to them before they responded in kind. And you're still not pointing out anything that negates what other users have said.

GOG Galaxy 2.0 is directly labelled in multiple parts of the website AND IN THE APP ITSELF as a beta, support staff have confirmed it's in beta, GOG staff have acknowledged it to be in beta on Twitter and elsewhere, and there has been no statement from the devs which contradicts that.

I've directly acknowledged that it's NOT BEING PROPERLY TREATED AS BETA while still being stated to be one. Pointing that out to me when it was literally one of the first things I said and has been repeated constantly by me throughout this conversation does exactly nothing to diminish the point I made, and only makes you look like you deserve even more of the alleged "abuse" you've received in the form of having people point out why you're wrong in far more polite terms than your own conduct warrants.

If you want the abuse to stop, STOP BEING ABUSIVE. It's not a hard concept to understand.

What a nice way to gaslight. This will come into play in the other half of your commentary.......

You've said that. You didn't disagree. I do know that. You accuse me of not being aware of that, in spite of me repeating the fundamentals of the things we both agreed with. Yet you dug in to a position to disagree, and got upset with me for pointing these things out to you.

I also saw what you were really trying to argue from miles away and how you were ready to pounce at the slightest deviation of your claims you personally establish was so decided as soon as it appeared to be challenged:
To recap, you actually did agree. But now you're just gonna basically omit inconvenient facts to bolster your argument. Isn't this basically just lying to yourself to make yourself feel better about trying to disagree? Come on. That's a bad faith argument.

Even in that case, when you were seeking the answer you wanted to see, was your query about asking if a beta exists? That was not the contention. At all. Even in my expanded explanation, you should agree there is a beta build, which I didn't deny. What you think I disagreed was my position of not conflating the existence of a beta build with another to fail to recognize the distinction of the fact there's two builds for the client. That's why I was trying to explain to you, that since this thread started, the 2.0 beta build is not merely singular anymore. At the time of the OP, it likely was, and yet currently not true. Yet, somehow you still want it to be just because of the nature of the way they're still basically treating it as developmental. That can be an easy mistake to make, but not to diligence.

I'm waiting for you to realize you're gaslighting here. Again.

Recall, this started with you being offensive with this claim, "There really wasn't any need to attack me for this, but since we're there now... yeah. You walked yourself into that one."

You could have chosen not to gaslight and insult people if you expected a civil conversation. To further punch down even after the receiver of your directed attacks asks this to cease only further exacerbates the abuse that's actually still coming from you. I don't see how anyone can respect that and assume such a person is not a bully unless they're also one too.

You could have not have chosen to participate in the thread at all when I didn't care for your dishonest behavior. And yet here you are continuing to do so. The conversation was lost the moment you decided I was the one stepping on rakes.

Or, alternatively, instead of trying to misrepresent what I'm doing, you could ACTUALLY do what I suggested before, and ACTUALLY go back and ACTUALLY re-read the conversation PROPERLY this time.

1. You posted a false statement that the Galaxy 2.0 client is NO LONGER in beta, implying that strongly and deliberately by saying it "was" in beta at the time the topic was posted and using that to suggest that it isn't any more.

2. I replied, pointing out that you were wrong.

3. You got defensive and claimed I was ignoring "context" when the context only proved your statement to be objectively false.

4. YOU started attacking ME, not the other way around.

5. I called you out for doing so, and responded somewhat in kind AFTER you had initated the problem.

Everything going forward from there has been your own doing. I'm going to bow out for now, unless you add something meaningful to the conversation, but YOU are the one picking the fight here, YOU were the one whose objectively false - by your own admission since - statement prompted me to comment in the first place, YOU were the one who initated the conflict in this conversation, and YOU were the one who has picked every single fight that you've gotten yourself into in this topic.

It's not hard to understand. You just have to go back and actually read the conversation properly to see what happened.

There's a difference between a beta that exists and whether the entire program is actually in beta. Please read the last couple of posts on that assessment.

A superfluous reply.

Once again, the clue is in the format on the client side. You keep missing that point.

You jumped in the thread.

You created the problem. Your argument is about semantics and you are wrong. You're getting angry for the wrong reasons, and you kept up being abusive even after being told to stop - which is exactly what trolls do.

Just like the rest of this:
I've asked you to stop the gaslighting. It degrades the integrity of the thread. You continue to do it even after being told to stop.

So, stop!

And this is all the answer you need, and more than you deserve at this point. yes, I'm literally quoting myself because I've already said all that needs to be said to show you're wrong. The closest anyone in this conversation has come to "gaslighting" at any stage is you, not me. If you want that to stop, just like if you want the "abuse" to stop, you simply have to stop doing it.

Pointing the blame isn't what "gaslighting" means. You should probably look it up.

I have NO obligation to stop pointing out that you were wrong. I have NO obligation to stop telling you that you're the one causing yourself to be subjected to "abuse" in the form of valid responses to your own rudeness to others. I have every right to post in a public forum telling you the truth about things you're doing wrong.

If you want that to stop, YOU can make it stop. You just need to stop making yourself deserve the responses you're getting. Either stop being worse than you're falsely accusing others of being, or stop commenting. It's up to YOU to end this if that's actually what you want to happen here.

Am I invisible here? I swear I asked a certain someone to cease, and they have continued to peep some more nonsense after they've ignored facts for their convenience.