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I believe there're many Linux users who share GOG DRM-free principles and would like to use GOG Galaxy. I understand that Linux gaming community isn't big enough to spend much many on it but I see similarity in GOG 2.0 and Lutris concepts which might be interesting. For thoose who doesn't know what is Lutris - it's an app which allows to run on Linux gaming launchers (GOG, Steam, EGS, Origin, etc.) and any games which are available in theese launchers. What I think is that GOG can use Lutris to provide Windows games on Linux that is especially convenient concidering GOG 2.0 all-launchers-in-one-app selling point. So many people can't play games because they love Linux a bit more than games. But what if they can play games?
terrible idea. it is faster to learn from scratch how to install and configure your own wine prefixes than spending hours in attempt to use bloated buggy Lutris just to run wine from it.
I won't tolerate this bloatware in my system, especially after I tested it and saw what kind of buggy mess it is
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djoxyk: terrible idea. it is faster to learn from scratch how to install and configure your own wine prefixes than spending hours in attempt to use bloated buggy Lutris just to run wine from it.
I won't tolerate this bloatware in my system, especially after I tested it and saw what kind of buggy mess it is
Okey then but I told more about Lutris concept not the app itself. Proton and GOG can work as well to provide better Linux gaming experience.
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djoxyk: terrible idea. it is faster to learn from scratch how to install and configure your own wine prefixes than spending hours in attempt to use bloated buggy Lutris just to run wine from it.
I won't tolerate this bloatware in my system, especially after I tested it and saw what kind of buggy mess it is
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Ol1verHampton: Okey then but I told more about Lutris concept not the app itself. Proton and GOG can work as well to provide better Linux gaming experience.
can you install and configure your own wine prefix to run most of your games? do it once (or twice, if you want to have separate 32bit and 64bit prefixes) and since than moment you won't need to install anything for every new game you launch, it will just work like native. why do you need Proton with steam specific dlls loaded into it for gog games? if you want to use Proton then add that game to steam and select to use Proton with it in settings. then run from steam client.
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Ol1verHampton: Okey then but I told more about Lutris concept not the app itself. Proton and GOG can work as well to provide better Linux gaming experience.
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djoxyk: can you install and configure your own wine prefix to run most of your games? do it once (or twice, if you want to have separate 32bit and 64bit prefixes) and since than moment you won't need to install anything for every new game you launch, it will just work like native. why do you need Proton with steam specific dlls loaded into it for gog games? if you want to use Proton then add that game to steam and select to use Proton with it in settings. then run from steam client.
Most of users don't want to configure something, they want to click one button and play. Linux won't be popular unless it becomes user-friendly AND customizable at the same time
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djoxyk: can you install and configure your own wine prefix to run most of your games? do it once (or twice, if you want to have separate 32bit and 64bit prefixes) and since than moment you won't need to install anything for every new game you launch, it will just work like native. why do you need Proton with steam specific dlls loaded into it for gog games? if you want to use Proton then add that game to steam and select to use Proton with it in settings. then run from steam client.
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Ol1verHampton: Most of users don't want to configure something, they want to click one button and play. Linux won't be popular unless it becomes user-friendly AND customizable at the same time
tell me about the need of configuring :) Lutris needs it even more than vanilla wine. Linux is already user-friendly and customizable if you haven't noticed. It just boils down to individuals who refuses to learn very simple ways to run their software. How hard could it be to issue one line in terminal to install wine and then open winetricks, tick all libraries you need and get fully functional wine prefix to run most of your games when you just click on that game? Too hard for you?
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djoxyk: [...]
tell me about the need of configuring :) Lutris needs it even more than vanilla wine. Linux is already user-friendly and customizable if you haven't noticed. It just boils down to individuals who refuses to learn very simple ways to run their software. How hard could it be to issue one line in terminal to install wine and then open winetricks, tick all libraries you need and get fully functional wine prefix to run most of your games when you just click on that game? Too hard for you?
Second this. I was intrugued at Lutris first, found it less comfy to run anything. And it also screwed up entries somehow. So I didn't bother anymore.

A shame that some things I use regularly don't run officially on Linux. It handles many things simply better - and for me even more stable - than windows. I would switch permanently otherwise, even if some games should not work (and most I play do in fact).

And it's not like you never have to troubleshoot a game on windows... For me, the newest one is The Devision 2. Configurations that helped me, still doesn't help a friend of mine ...
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kzadur: A shame that some things I use regularly don't run officially on Linux. It handles many things simply better - and for me even more stable - than windows. I would switch permanently otherwise, even if some games should not work (and most I play do in fact).
I keep Win 7 in dual boot mode for the case when I need it. It is just 50Gb partition with basic windows installation and game clients, does not take much space or attention (installed it 2 years ago and it still as good as new:). I load it once per couple of months at best. Lutris for me does crazy things (fails to install from gog installers and shows less games than I have in gog, and there's no way to add missing titles). There's more issues to it.
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kzadur: A shame that some things I use regularly don't run officially on Linux. It handles many things simply better - and for me even more stable - than windows. I would switch permanently otherwise, even if some games should not work (and most I play do in fact).
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djoxyk: I keep Win 7 in dual boot mode for the case when I need it. It is just 50Gb partition with basic windows installation and game clients, does not take much space or attention (installed it 2 years ago and it still as good as new:). I load it once per couple of months at best. Lutris for me does crazy things (fails to install from gog installers and shows less games than I have in gog, and there's no way to add missing titles). There's more issues to it.
Ok, dude, calm down. Not Lutris but native GOG launcher with one-click games setup. I don't really care if CD Projekt would use Lutris, Proton or their own libraries, I just assumed that using existing code would make things easier. Actually, I have troubles with Proton: some games refuse to run through directx-to-vulcan "emulator" and directx-to-opengl shows unproper lighting. So I just don't want to use Windows but I have to.
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djoxyk: I keep Win 7 in dual boot mode for the case when I need it. It is just 50Gb partition with basic windows installation and game clients, does not take much space or attention (installed it 2 years ago and it still as good as new:). I load it once per couple of months at best. Lutris for me does crazy things (fails to install from gog installers and shows less games than I have in gog, and there's no way to add missing titles). There's more issues to it.
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Ol1verHampton: Ok, dude, calm down. Not Lutris but native GOG launcher with one-click games setup. I don't really care if CD Projekt would use Lutris, Proton or their own libraries, I just assumed that using existing code would make things easier. Actually, I have troubles with Proton: some games refuse to run through directx-to-vulcan "emulator" and directx-to-opengl shows unproper lighting. So I just don't want to use Windows but I have to.
calm down? this topic is not that "hot" for me. if you want direct one click install as I already mentioned, wine does this kind of thing (for offline windows launchers). If you want launcher for gog Linux games try Games Nebula (https://github.com/yancharkin/games_nebula) - it downloads and installs gog games just fine, and can attempt to run windows games with wine as well (tho I won't be saying if it works or not - never tried it). If you want gog to take an action and create Linux client - they won't. if they ever wanted to do so they had 5 years to deliver simple barebone Linux client.

Issues with Proton can be its own issues, and more likely won't be same for vanilla wine. Proton uses DXVK, wine does not use it unless you select such wine build. From my experience if game fails in Proton it will in most cases run in my wine prefix.
Post edited August 17, 2019 by djoxyk
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djoxyk: terrible idea. it is faster to learn from scratch how to install and configure your own wine prefixes than spending hours in attempt to use bloated buggy Lutris just to run wine from it.
I won't tolerate this bloatware in my system, especially after I tested it and saw what kind of buggy mess it is
I know this is over 2 yers ago but it's hard not to comment, nonethelss:
The suggesttion was not to *force you* to install Lutris, it was about *allowing others* to use it.

I for once have spent many an hour trying to work out how to even configure Wine myself, and I will not get those hours back.
Then my main computer broke, I moved to another one, gave Lutris a shot, and had multiple games running in no more time than it took ti download and install them, with no more input required from me than my GOG login and which game I wanted to install.

I call that a very clear win for Lutris.

I'm sure that if I spent a week figuring out the intricacies of WINE, I could configure things myself, but Lutris does that for me, handles the multiple prefixes, per-game settings and compatible WINE versions, which I would otherwise have to experiment with (although I still can, and do tweak WINE settings for some games)

Maybe Lutris has just become better in the last two years, or maybe it works better on specific games, or specific systems/hardware configurations -- and I'm thoroughly skeptic about the Lutris user account and web-based "features" -- but that does not change the fact that it has been a great help for me to move almost all of my gaming from Windows to Linux, with a pretty small investment of time. It's not working all the time, but I think with a little support from GOG, it could get there fast. After all GOG started out by packaging DOSbox with old MS-DOS games in a way which "just worked" without having to set it up yourself -- but without preventing people from doing so, of course. I find it very hard to understand what should be wrong with that.
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djoxyk: terrible idea. it is faster to learn from scratch how to install and configure your own wine prefixes than spending hours in attempt to use bloated buggy Lutris just to run wine from it.
I won't tolerate this bloatware in my system, especially after I tested it and saw what kind of buggy mess it is
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AlexMcH: I know this is over 2 yers ago but it's hard not to comment, nonethelss:
The suggesttion was not to *force you* to install Lutris, it was about *allowing others* to use it.

I for once have spent many an hour trying to work out how to even configure Wine myself, and I will not get those hours back.
Then my main computer broke, I moved to another one, gave Lutris a shot, and had multiple games running in no more time than it took ti download and install them, with no more input required from me than my GOG login and which game I wanted to install.

I call that a very clear win for Lutris.

I'm sure that if I spent a week figuring out the intricacies of WINE, I could configure things myself, but Lutris does that for me, handles the multiple prefixes, per-game settings and compatible WINE versions, which I would otherwise have to experiment with (although I still can, and do tweak WINE settings for some games)

Maybe Lutris has just become better in the last two years, or maybe it works better on specific games, or specific systems/hardware configurations -- and I'm thoroughly skeptic about the Lutris user account and web-based "features" -- but that does not change the fact that it has been a great help for me to move almost all of my gaming from Windows to Linux, with a pretty small investment of time. It's not working all the time, but I think with a little support from GOG, it could get there fast. After all GOG started out by packaging DOSbox with old MS-DOS games in a way which "just worked" without having to set it up yourself -- but without preventing people from doing so, of course. I find it very hard to understand what should be wrong with that.
Wake me up once I can play native games that had multiplayer stripped out because of no Galaxy SDK using Lutris, as well as cross platform cloud saves.

That will never happen ever, it's impossible for Lutris to add in multiplayer and GOG treating Linux users as a second class citizen is why I have bought hundreds of games on Steam since 2014 when they first lied about Galaxy for Linux but only 5 on GOG.
Post edited December 06, 2021 by Frogmancer