I'm happy that GOG refuses to sell porn games. Just imagine they would add filthy stuff like this detestable alien gay sex simulator... I don't remember it's name. I think it was Mass Effect...

This diatribe would probably be less self-defeating if it wasn't filled with all these silly strawmen and "mock"-childish sensibilities.

I'm strictly against sex in video games. Up until the point I happen upon an example that proves to me it can be done in a non-ridiculous way, that is

He does have a really good point though. No, there simply needs to be more sex and less violence. Period. Prove to me that violence is better than sex. Please.

What?

I tend to think if we had a larger prevalence of more adult themed games we might actually get a little less "bikini armor" females in non adult themed games. The market is there, it wants it, game devs know it and straddle the line as much as possible to sell to it.

I find it hilarious that steam doesn't let that game on greenlight, but has no problem with the damn near criminal practices coming from devs like Hammerpoint and Gearbox. It seems valve doesn't seem to care if their customers get fucked, but they care if the characters in the game do.

In my opinion 'sexual content in videogames' is the kind of things that shouldn't be frowned upon, but I'd love that nobody felt the urge/need/whatever to develop that. Kind of a pandora box in my opinion, which holds a lot of subjects I DON'T want to have to skim through on my everyday life on any videogames forum (like 'why couldn't we make a rape simulation as a videogame' and other moral wrestle like that).
Romance in videogames are generally bad as it is, I can't see how sexual things can be anything but horrendous on average. I would have no interest at all in such games, and I'd really like that the industry doesn't develop in that direction. Really really.

I'm actually for sex being mostly in "erotic games" category, and even those being sold in stores. I'm thinking of buying "Seduce Me" from that new Swedish digital store (forget the name, mentioned in the deals thread I think, not GamersGate) that sells DRM-free games, mainly to see would there finally be an erotic game worthy of being called a game.

At the same time, I kinda hope they would tone down the sexual parts and stuff in other games. Games didn't use to be like that, not even PC games! It is not like Sarah Kerrigan and Raynor suddenly started making out passionately in between Starcraft missions, their mutual affection was shown to the gamer in other ways through their dialogue. After that we started having games where there is suddenly some sexual intercourse QTE section (e.g. God of War games on PS2?).

Maybe I'm getting old... I dunno, I see these games mostly like watching Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Transformers or Seinfeld, ie. I expect them still to be "family friendly". Yeah, I know it is odd to not like sex in games but violence is ok, but I see that as violence adding the element of urgency and danger to the game, while sex scenes don't (unless it is a quickie with an AIDS patient without a condom).

And at least so far, the sex scenes I've seen in games have been pretty silly. Since they don't arouse me, what's their point then?

That raises the question: which sex scene in a non-erotic game title aroused you the most? Or did any? Getting a woody woodpecker from playing Mass Effect 1-3, God of War or The Witcher games?

Well, there's a lot more sex scenes can achieve. They can be disturbing, funny, sad, repulsive and so many things more in addition to or insted of being arousing. In theory.

In practice, the scenes in Mass Effect, Dragon Age, The Witcher or Fahrenheit have been ridiculous in the very worst of senses.

Just to add a bit to my earlier message, it is a bit the same with very graphics and gore-ish violence. I don't expect most games to have such (except for maybe comedic reason, or if it is am actual gore-horror game), even if they deal with violence. I don't expect to see eyeballs and guts flying at me in games either, even if I shoot someone.

Far Cry 2 was a borderline case. To me the enemies dying from your shots, cursing and pleading after you had seriously injured them (meaning you should give a mercy shot) was almost too much to me, too realistic(?). But at the same time I found it very refreshing, I occasionally even felt bad for shooting some enemy, he felt almost like a human being, not just dying neatly with "Aargh, I die, you win. You are the bestest...".

I don't see why there couldn't be more sexual content in games, in fact, I would probably like it myself. It's only realistic. There are very good stories and characters in games these days, why not sex?

Maybe they could have their own category, or some kind of "tag" that it contains sex so that those who do not wish to see it, could move along. Then again, games already have those ratings that kind of warn you about the content..

I never played "Seduce Me" but seeing a few screenshots its seem that its content is very explicit and defiantly wouldn't rated as softcore porn, I still think they should have giving a fair chance at Steam but I understand Steam refusal to do so.

I don't agree with the point their is no sexual content in mainstream games, and not just the type of "let's dress the heroine in flimsy clothes" type but many AAA with sex scenes and adult themes.

Oh, you're strictly against sex in videogames unless videogames do sex right :-P Pick one!

I kind of agree with you, not with that unfortunate wording tho: I have never seen a game where sex would be done well. The only sex scene which ever stood out to me is the one with the russian chick in Alpha Protocol, but that's just because I have a thing for strong slavic females. Others were either done serviceably (like the one in Witcher 2, which was ... Basically your bog-standard movie sex scene, just as Mass Effect), botched up somehow (like the original Witcher - the 'cinematic' sex scenes were fine for the most part, but the cards were terrible), or just plain terrible (Fahrenheit. You move your mouse up and down, upon which ... Just nevermind.)

Problem is that I have never seen a videogame capturing sex in an interactive format properly. Even if we talk some crazy sex-toy gaming perripherals, what videogame sex is missing is not physical contant, it's a semblance of feeling of intimacy, of some sort of connection and chemistry between characters, all of this somehow transferred into an interactive experience - which I just have no clue how could be done interactively without turning utterly ridiculous. I'm not saying it can't be done tho, I'm just not quite clever enough to know. And I'm not even talking about the fact that all of this requires extremely well-written moment-to-moment dialogues, overall dialogue arc just won't cut it.

So the only way videogames can currently do sex is via cinematic videos - and even those won't be quite as beleiveable as in the movie format, as polygon-based character models are just so static whenever two characters as much as hold hands.

But no, I'm not against distribution of videogames with sexual content, to each their own.

Until! Not unless.

I don't mind Seduce Me being on Steam or GOG. I don't think I would buy it as it doesn't have things I'm looking for in games (mostly good story and\or horror OR the game being really bad), but I can't see anything wrong with the game.
If sexual content serves the story and enriches the narrative, I'm all in for it.