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Posted January 19, 2014
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Reever: ...I stumbled upon this article here and I asked myself what you guys are thinking about games with sexual content and if they have a place on mainstream distribution platforms. ...
Nothing wrong with a good sex game I would say. However keep it away from the young, aka provide a working age verification before. And alway strive for multiplayer games, single player is boring.
Posted January 19, 2014
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Fenixp: Well yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about - sex is just another form of expression, which is the essence of roleplaying for me (expression, not sex), so naturally, I want my character to get more choices than simple 'To have' or 'Not to have' sex, that then gets represented by a non-interactive movie or screen that blacks out. I don't necessarily want sex to be on a pedestral as something 'special', I just want it to be part of the story, just like it's part of life.

Ironically enough tho, sex in many videogames actually IS put on a pedestral, especially by games like Mass Effect where intercourse is the 'trophy' you get for pursuing a relationship, that then ends by the game's end, which comes extremely soon after that. I did like how Witcher games approached the subject there - pursuing a relationship with somebody was your own choice, there wasn't this kind of weird 'reward' at the end - in fact, in both games, sex with the potencial partner took place more or less at the beginning, or could take place if you wanted it to. I liked that.
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FraterPerdurabo: When I date girls it is because I fancy them and I want to shag them. And sometimes the shag is the "trophy", especially when you realise that it is not going to work after that point. So what is wrong with portraying it in a similar fashion in vidya games? Or what about other "tastleless" things like bashing people's faces in with baseball bats? Surely if we start to restrict content in vidya games it will lead to the slippery slope argument?
But it already is restricted. Isn't that exactly what Fenixp is getting at? It is restricted to sex being treated as an achievement and being portrayed in a very one-dimensional way. Just because some people might treat sex like that in real life too, doesn't mean forcing this view on all players is less restricting. The way I understand what Fenixp is saying is that he wants more freedom to roleplay relationships including sex, instead of being restricted to collecting trophies or aiming for sex as the ultimate goal and reward at the end of the game, if you got all the answers right. Correct me if I misread you, Fenixp, but if that's what you're saying, I very much agree with it.
Post edited January 19, 2014 by Leroux
Posted January 19, 2014
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Leroux: Correct me if I misread you, Fenixp, but if that's what you're saying, I very much agree with it.
Well what I'm saying is that sex scenes should be interactive in some manner, but yes, the bit that FraterPerdurabo quoted was indeed meant that way, more or less.

Not only that tho, games have enough space to not only build up a romantic relationship, but also continue or end it at any point during the process - 'romance' introduced by Mass Effect is basically seduction trough a couple of dialogues ended by sex. Well done Bioware, that's some great interaction right there!

I do understand that what I'm talking about would need to have a lot of influence on how some characters react to you tho, so it wouldn't exactly be easy to do and when I'm to pick if I want well-created romance or EVERYTHING ELSE about the game, I'm obviously going to go for the latter as if I wanted to play some of those 'romance interactive novels' I'd just go and do that.

I just wish sex and romance would be integrated into videogame stories just as everything else is slowly beginning to be is all.
Post edited January 19, 2014 by Fenixp
Posted January 19, 2014
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Trilarion: Nothing wrong with a good sex game I would say. However keep it away from the young, aka provide a working age verification before.
What we really need is some way of protecting kids against the inherent addictiveness of video games. Which gets exloited more and more with each passing year, via unlockables, achievements, loot drops, online rankings and so forth.

I think that's more insidious and harmful than violent or sexual content could ever be.
Posted January 19, 2014
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Ivory&Gold: What we really need is some way of protecting kids against the inherent addictiveness of video games.
You mean, like, education, parental care, sensitivity and encouragement to find joy in other aspects of life? Psychotherapy? No, wait, I know, LAWS and PROHIBITION! That will work on teenagers, I'm sure! Or just give them some bottles of liquor instead.
Post edited January 19, 2014 by Leroux
Posted January 19, 2014
I'm going to turn geralt into the biggest slut of the game world in the witcher.
Post edited January 19, 2014 by pimpmonkey2382
Posted January 19, 2014
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Leroux: You mean, like, education, parental care, sensitivity and encouragement to find joy in other aspects of life? Psychotherapy?
Sure, for example.
Posted January 19, 2014
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Leroux: Not quite true, I recently replayed the final mission of ME2 and there were several cutscenes I wasn't allowed to skip. But regarding the 'sex' scenes, if I'm not mistaken, you can completely avoid any sexual relationships and tell everybody you just want to be friends. So if you wasted 30 seconds on that sex scene, doesn't that mean you were secretly hoping it would be better? Because if you thought that these things are always awkward and a waste of time in videogames, you could just have avoided starting any 'serious' relationships. ;)
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Ivory&Gold: Well, I've come to the believe that video game sex scenes don't work for me at all partly because I've seen how they play out in, for example, Fahrenheit (interactive) and Mass Effect (non-interactive). Similarly, my strong preference for playing, not watching, games is the result of having done both, many times. I'm not saying "I don't like bananas, therefore I'll never try them." I'm saying "I don't like bananas, I've tried them".

(I do like bananas.)

And yes, I'm aware that the fact that every video game sex scene I've encountered was shit doesn't mean there won't be any worthwhile ones in the future. Still, I have long since considered it and come to the conclusion that interactive sex scenes are inherently pointless. To put it in the most general terms possible, the act of inserting a penis in a vagina and all the feelings and implications surrounding it is so far removed from the act of pushing a button that any attempt to simulate one by the other will inevitably result in a vast feeling of disconnect. Which is generally what we mean when we say "ridiculous".
And ripping someones head off is that far removed from actually RIPPING SOMEONES HEAD OFF. Or SHOOTING THEM IN THE STOMACH AND WATCHING THEM BLEED OUT? Let's be realistic and call an apple an apple. It's a video game. Pure and simple. Killing someone in a video game is "ridiculous". Doing anything in a video game and expecting the same feelings from real life is "ridiculous". You're playing games for the wrong reasons if you want those feelings.
Posted January 19, 2014
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Trilarion: Nothing wrong with a good sex game I would say. However keep it away from the young, aka provide a working age verification before.
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Ivory&Gold: What we really need is some way of protecting kids against the inherent addictiveness of video games. Which gets exloited more and more with each passing year, via unlockables, achievements, loot drops, online rankings and so forth.

I think that's more insidious and harmful than violent or sexual content could ever be.
Well that's true, but what are you gonna do? Give them some chewing gum and condoms before Steam takes them away?
Post edited January 19, 2014 by Sargon
Posted January 19, 2014
Trying to censor sex from people is stupid and impossible. Do I have to start linking to studies showing masturbation IN THE WOMB? Yes, there was a fetus (not a child) caught masturbating IN ITS MOTHERS WOMB. Trying to censor sex by saying no one can enjoy it, or hiding it behind some big curtain is useless and has been shown to be so for quite some time.
Posted January 19, 2014
I've never heard of that before. I guess you learn something new every day.
Posted January 19, 2014
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itchy01ca01: Or SHOOTING THEM IN THE STOMACH AND WATCHING THEM BLEED OUT?
Shooting's actually very videogamey, not least because pulling a trigger syncs nicely with pushing a button. Why do you think it's so prominent in gaming?
Posted January 19, 2014
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Ivory&Gold: What we really need is some way of protecting kids against the inherent addictiveness of video games. Which gets exloited more and more with each passing year, via unlockables, achievements, loot drops, online rankings and so forth.

I think that's more insidious and harmful than violent or sexual content could ever be.
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Sargon: Well that's true, but what are you gonna do? Give them some chewing gum and condoms before Steam takes them away?
You may have said that with snark, but it is absolutely what needs to happen.
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itchy01ca01: Or SHOOTING THEM IN THE STOMACH AND WATCHING THEM BLEED OUT?
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Ivory&Gold: Shooting's actually very videogamey, not least because pulling a trigger syncs nicely with pushing a button. Why do you think it's so prominent in gaming?
It's still nothing like pulling a trigger against a living thing and watching it die. Both of which I have done in my life. Video games are nothing like it. Trying to compare video games with real life is useless. Pushing a button is nothing like lining up a shot, controlling your breathing, creating the proper sight picture, judging the wind, feeling the ground beneath your body/legs/arms, feeling the weight of the weapon in your hands, controlling that same weight perfectly, so that it balances and lies just the right way, finally squeezing the trigger, feeling the bullet leave the chamber, hearing the crack of the bullet as it hits and surpasses the sound barrier, watching the bullet hit the intended target and the myriad emotions that come after that. A video game DOES NOT and NEVER WILL give you that experience. Ever. And trying to say so dishonors those who have actually had to do it in real life. Or you could come out with me on exercise and see how real soldiers like to "play".
Post edited January 19, 2014 by itchy01ca01
Posted January 19, 2014
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itchy01ca01: It's still nothing like pulling a trigger against a living thing and watching it die.
You're aware of America's Army?
Posted January 19, 2014
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itchy01ca01: Trying to censor sex by saying no one can enjoy it, or hiding it behind some big curtain is useless and has been shown to be so for quite some time.
I wouldn't say it is useless. It has been put to good use for quite some time. Controlling people's sex lives gives governmental and religious authorities control of people. Restricting women's sex lives through the institution of marriage and slut-shaming makes it easier to determine ownership of children and property. Inheritance would be a little bit more difficult without the institution of marriage. The oppression of sexual minorities does also provide a good source for potential internal enemies.

Useless in ain't but people-friendly it ain't either.
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