Posted January 17, 2013

ucfalumknight
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amok
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Registered: Sep 2008
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Posted January 17, 2013
but people say "it is a C&C clone" not "it is a Dune clone", for the same reason why people say "It is a Minecraft clone", and not "it is a Infiniminer clone", the yardstick is not necessary the first, but the one making a genre or gimmick popular or driving it it the point where the genre is (re-)defined. NOt to say that Dune is not a yardstick, as it defines what we think of as RTS today, but C&C did it also.

Bad Hair Day
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Posted January 17, 2013
I guess Dune deserves more credit, but I always thought the orignal was pretty bad. D 2000 was okay but I always felt C&C perfected (at that time) the RTS and helped make the genre as popular as it became, thus the yardstick moniker.

JudasIscariot
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Registered: Oct 2008
From Poland
Posted January 17, 2013
I can honestly say that Thief is one of those games as it created a genre as I don't recall any games like it before it came out.

PetrusOctavianus
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From Norway

amok
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Posted January 17, 2013
Tenchu pips it to the post with over 1/2 year - first released in February '98, while Thief in November '98....

PetrusOctavianus
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From Norway
Posted January 17, 2013


But I see on Mobygames that it's 3rd person, so it can't have the same immersion or reliance on hearing (and not just sight) as the Thief games.
Post edited January 17, 2013 by PetrusOctavianus

amok
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Posted January 17, 2013


Moby Games - http://www.mobygames.com/game/tenchu-stealth-assassins
Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenchu
In my view, the most enjoyable stealth games series ever made... but I am a bit strange...

Sabin_Stargem
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Registered: Jun 2009
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Posted January 17, 2013
For me, one of the benchmarks for games that are based on a non-videogame franchise is Star Trek: 25th Anniversary and its sequel Judgment Rites. They are primarily point & click adventure games, but also includes dialogue options that allows you have Kirk give different responses to the people he meets. There are several self-contained episodes in each game, and there is ship-to-ship combat that works decently in my opinion. The best part of these games is that they feel like actual episodes of the original series, so it is a real treat for me as a Star Trek fan.
Honorable mention goes to TIE Fighter as well, since it is a pretty good game and has you playing someone who isn't a part of the Rebel Alliance. The best games based on a franchise should keep true to the spirit of what it is based on, but also expands upon it in some way. :)
Honorable mention goes to TIE Fighter as well, since it is a pretty good game and has you playing someone who isn't a part of the Rebel Alliance. The best games based on a franchise should keep true to the spirit of what it is based on, but also expands upon it in some way. :)

PetrusOctavianus
Retro Gamer
Registered: Dec 2011
From Norway
Posted January 17, 2013

Moby Games - http://www.mobygames.com/game/tenchu-stealth-assassins
Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenchu
In my view, the most enjoyable stealth games series ever made... but I am a bit strange...
Amazingly enough for a Japanese game the characters actually look like people and not anime versions of 8 year old girls in skimpy clothing.

amok
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Registered: Sep 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted January 17, 2013

Moby Games - http://www.mobygames.com/game/tenchu-stealth-assassins
Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenchu
In my view, the most enjoyable stealth games series ever made... but I am a bit strange...

Amazingly enough for a Japanese game the characters actually look like people and not anime versions of 8 year old girls in skimpy clothing.

Austrobogulator
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Registered: Jan 2010
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Posted January 17, 2013


Also, the oldest 'yardstick' today, would have to be rogue, given the surge of 'roguelikes' recently; although, I'm sure most people have never played the actual game, and know of it just by the term 'roguelike'.
Post edited January 17, 2013 by Austrobogulator

TEgotisticalTwat
Registered: May 2011
From United Kingdom
Posted January 17, 2013
Tetris. It made gaming more mainstream and accesible to non gamers. It also made portable gaming a viable option.

CautionaryFable
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Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
Posted January 17, 2013
I generally hold third person shooters up to Gears of War.
Primordia is a new yardstick of mine for adventure games.
I also hold some strategy games up to Civ.
Primordia is a new yardstick of mine for adventure games.
I also hold some strategy games up to Civ.

ucfalumknight
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Registered: May 2010
From United States
Posted January 17, 2013

