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Hi there

I'm new on this game.

I'm a video game collector and have hard copies of Lucasarts X-wing/TIE fighter collection editions however it is only for PC.

Lucasart released these games for PC & Mac ages ago but I have been looking for digital download versions.

I don't have PC but got a apple mac laptop & will get a new apple mac computer on next month.

I am wondering GOG should explore the possibilty of having X-wing/TIE figher collection for their GOG game download library which would be a popular choice.
If Disney allowed them to sell Star Wars games they surely would. Obviously they don't. X-Wing and its sequels aren't even on Steam, so they're classified as abandonware if you agree with such a thing. I am sure there are numerous fan releases of them on abandonware sites and torrent sites. I don't know the particulars as flight sim is not my genre.

As for running them on Mac, I wouldn't know. Someone else might be able to speak to that. Pretty sure Apple made it so you can install Windows on a Mac now though? So you could always do that.
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Niall26: [..]I am wondering GOG should explore the possibilty of having X-wing/TIE figher collection for their GOG game download library which would be a popular choice.
We all want Lucasarts games here, even GOG!
The problem is with the current rights owner.. Disney : (
Post edited May 11, 2014 by phaolo
IIRC both X-Wing and Tie Fighter were DOS games on original release, so IF Disney ever allows them to be re-released, it should be no problem at all to play them on a Mac through DOSBox. As you already have the PC versions, you can probably set them up fairly easily to work on your Mac using Boxer. That is, unless what you have is Windows-only, which re-release editions may have been... not sure, as I think I only ever played the first release.

The original, native Mac versions on the other hand... even if you can find them somewhere, you'd need to set up an emulator like Sheepshaver to make them run at all on modern Macs, something which is much more complicated than emulating DOS (e.g. the emulator needs a ROM file extracted from a real '90s Mac to run; using a ROM that you didn't extract yourself is considered illegal AFAICR).
Post edited May 11, 2014 by chean
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StingingVelvet: If Disney allowed them to sell Star Wars games they surely would. Obviously they don't. X-Wing and its sequels aren't even on Steam, so they're classified as abandonware if you agree with such a thing. I am sure there are numerous fan releases of them on abandonware sites and torrent sites. I don't know the particulars as flight sim is not my genre.

As for running them on Mac, I wouldn't know. Someone else might be able to speak to that. Pretty sure Apple made it so you can install Windows on a Mac now though? So you could always do that.
Its interesting though why they have Dark Forces 1 and 2 on Steam in the first place and not include any games of the X-Wing series?
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Niall26: [..]I am wondering GOG should explore the possibilty of having X-wing/TIE figher collection for their GOG game download library which would be a popular choice.
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phaolo: We all want Lucasarts games here, even GOG!
The problem is with the current rights owner.. Disney : (
Even less chance for Star Wars games to be her than the non star wars Lucasarts games.
Post edited May 11, 2014 by Elmofongo
GOG.com is working very hard on getting Lucas Arts games, source:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcEticbArIk&index=13&list=FLSpUnlXt0F7qVI67fL432ZQ I am not going to get my hopes up. [not yet anyway.] but I am happy that they did not give up on Disney.
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Elmofongo: Its interesting though why they have Dark Forces 1 and 2 on Steam in the first place and not include any games of the X-Wing series?
I would imagine Dark Forces took priority in their Steam experiment because they're shooters, which is a more popular genre typically. Lucasarts gave up on Steam rather quickly so they might have just never got around to more niche titles.

Also everyone on Steam went apeshit when Jedi Knight didn't run perfectly so that might have scared Lucasarts away from releasing other older games.
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Elmofongo: Its interesting though why they have Dark Forces 1 and 2 on Steam in the first place and not include any games of the X-Wing series?
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StingingVelvet: I would imagine Dark Forces took priority in their Steam experiment because they're shooters, which is a more popular genre typically. Lucasarts gave up on Steam rather quickly so they might have just never got around to more niche titles.

Also everyone on Steam went apeshit when Jedi Knight didn't run perfectly so that might have scared Lucasarts away from releasing other older games.
Yeah, that would be problematic.

I think that if we get one game here that the rest will follow shortly after. LA is one of the most requested developers on the list and a lot of those old games are just not available except for eBay and abandonware sites.

I personally look forward to X-Wing as well as Willy Beamish.
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chean: The original, native Mac versions on the other hand... even if you can find them somewhere, you'd need to set up an emulator like Sheepshaver to make them run at all on modern Macs, something which is much more complicated than emulating DOS (e.g. the emulator needs a ROM file extracted from a real '90s Mac to run; using a ROM that you didn't extract yourself is considered illegal AFAICR).
Unless it's improved in recent years, Sheepshaver runs games poorly or so I have heard. Once I found that out I never bothered to pursue it.
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Elmofongo: Its interesting though why they have Dark Forces 1 and 2 on Steam in the first place and not include any games of the X-Wing series?
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StingingVelvet: I would imagine Dark Forces took priority in their Steam experiment because they're shooters, which is a more popular genre typically. Lucasarts gave up on Steam rather quickly so they might have just never got around to more niche titles.

Also everyone on Steam went apeshit when Jedi Knight didn't run perfectly so that might have scared Lucasarts away from releasing other older games.
Also do the Dark Forces games run well now on Steam? does Dark Force 2 work right out of the box?
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Elmofongo: Also do the Dark Forces games run well now on Steam? does Dark Force 2 work right out of the box?
They all work fine for me, but Dark Forces 2 runs the menus and FMV cutscenes in a small window, which is annoying.
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Elmofongo: Also do the Dark Forces games run well now on Steam? does Dark Force 2 work right out of the box?
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StingingVelvet: They all work fine for me, but Dark Forces 2 runs the menus and FMV cutscenes in a small window, which is annoying.
An off-topic question

What about Quake 1.2. and 3 Arena?

I downloaded a Demo of 2 on Steam and I played on a small window screen and when alt-tab to full screen it the colors are all whack? Is the game like that or only the Demo and the full game is the fixed version? Samething with the other Quake games?
Tie Tie *rimshot*
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Gydion: Unless it's improved in recent years, Sheepshaver runs games poorly or so I have heard. Once I found that out I never bothered to pursue it.
In my experience it runs 90-95% of 68k/PPC games flawlessly; the exceptions are usually... unusually programmed in some way, or from the last generations of OS 9 games (Alpha Centauri is one I remember wouldn't run at all). I haven't used Sheepshaver much lately, but it's handy for things like old strategy games, or playing Escape Velocity / EV Override with classic TC mods that were never converted for the EV Nova engine.

Of course, Sheepshaver performance is heavily dependent on the hardware running it; I suppose PPC emulation might not be satisfactory/fast enough if running on relatively old Intel Macs.
Post edited May 11, 2014 by chean
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Elmofongo: I downloaded a Demo of 2 on Steam and I played on a small window screen and when alt-tab to full screen it the colors are all whack? Is the game like that or only the Demo and the full game is the fixed version? Samething with the other Quake games?
I play Quake and Quake 2 in source port conversions, so I can't say how the vanilla versions play.