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Posted June 19, 2013
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C17: The PS3 is more powerful.
Almost 7 years old too :D
Posted June 19, 2013
So, was it CDPR that made Microsoft an offer they couldn't refuse? "No Witcher 3 on XBone, unless..."? ;)
Post edited June 19, 2013 by timppu
Posted June 19, 2013
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StingingVelvet: I'm legitimately shocked. Never expected them to turn around so fast or so fully. I thought maybe extending the 24 hour thing, but a total turnaround? Remarkable.

It's a victory for consumers for the most part. It's really the media that did it, which makes me wish the media gave a shit back when Steam and SecuROM were going on. But no one cares about PC gaming, so... yeah.

It is funny though, I think they do lose some cool features by returning to a disc-based model. I guess those features will still exist if you buy digitally, but then you have the horrible DRM. Also I dislike Gamestop's pawn shops existing for another 5 years or so, I just hate that shit, but that's me.

I still think the GOG model, iTunes model for MP3s, is the best. No DRM, no resale.
From this Kotaku article, game sharing may make a return later on.

"One of the things we were very exicted about was 'wherever we go my games are always with me.' Now, of course your physical games won’t show up that way. The games you bought digitally will. You’ll have to bring your discs with you to have your games with you. Similarly, the sharing library [is something] we won’t be able to deliver at launch."

http://kotaku.com/surprise-xbox-one-drm-reversal-requires-day-one-patch-514419715

I also was looking forward to Pawnstop going under, but if this generation was anything to go by, it will be longer than 5 years before the next batch of consoles show up that might do it then.

Yes the system still has to be activated once, but that is a minor point to me. Having internet one time to get the console going is a far cry from having it every day to check in.
Posted June 19, 2013
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StingingVelvet: I'm legitimately shocked. Never expected them to turn around so fast or so fully. I thought maybe extending the 24 hour thing, but a total turnaround? Remarkable.
Same here.

And I have little else to say, but my shock is big enough I wanted a post of mine here to bear witness of it to future generations.
Posted June 19, 2013
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vidium: I dont understand why they didnt the xbone had this from the start? Now they realise that customers are not as dumb as they thought and will punish them with the wallet. Trying to save the dead guy from the grave, hope its not too late.
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Fesin: Because they probably thought Sony would do something similar. They were willing to take the initial flak, because they were sure they could move the industry in this direction.

In fact, it's very likely that Sony actually did plan something similar, and only announced their non-DRM policies when they saw the reaction to the Xbone and thought they could capitalize on that.
I honestly thought that Sony would eventually cave in too, although not right away to get a lot of the market share.
Still I think the whole thing was really bad for them anyway, i still prefer the ps3 though so I'm not bothered much.
Post edited June 19, 2013 by Joe56780
Posted June 19, 2013
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StingingVelvet: I'm legitimately shocked. Never expected them to turn around so fast or so fully. I thought maybe extending the 24 hour thing, but a total turnaround? Remarkable.

It's a victory for consumers for the most part. It's really the media that did it, which makes me wish the media gave a shit back when Steam and SecuROM were going on. But no one cares about PC gaming, so... yeah.

It is funny though, I think they do lose some cool features by returning to a disc-based model. I guess those features will still exist if you buy digitally, but then you have the horrible DRM. Also I dislike Gamestop's pawn shops existing for another 5 years or so, I just hate that shit, but that's me.

I still think the GOG model, iTunes model for MP3s, is the best. No DRM, no resale.
most I expected was that the disc in the drive would always run but yeah looks like they're striping the sharing features etc and making it just be the same damn status quo.
Posted June 19, 2013
Given the backlash I cant say im shocked. Kudos for them to realize they are wrong and change it.

Though I do think something should be made available like some sort of "tip" function could be implemented in the game profile if you enjoy the game or want to give something back if you buy it used.
Posted June 19, 2013
Wow ... I didn't expect this either ... kudos to the console customers and the gaming journalists!

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StingingVelvet: I'm legitimately shocked. Never expected them to turn around so fast or so fully. I thought maybe extending the 24 hour thing, but a total turnaround? Remarkable.

It's a victory for consumers for the most part. It's really the media that did it, which makes me wish the media gave a shit back when Steam and SecuROM were going on. But no one cares about PC gaming, so... yeah.

It is funny though, I think they do lose some cool features by returning to a disc-based model. I guess those features will still exist if you buy digitally, but then you have the horrible DRM. Also I dislike Gamestop's pawn shops existing for another 5 years or so, I just hate that shit, but that's me.

I still think the GOG model, iTunes model for MP3s, is the best. No DRM, no resale.
I think the best would be to have both in the digital marketplace: stores which sell DRM-free games with no right to resale or account-based DRM stores with full right to resale - and the resale for digital goods could be done by selling back to the store a la GMG but even better peer-to-peer resale could be huge for consumers and companies if implemented right.
Post edited June 19, 2013 by crazy_dave
Posted June 19, 2013
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Fictionvision: Yes the system still has to be activated once, but that is a minor point to me. Having internet one time to get the console going is a far cry from having it every day to check in.
That just to get firmware updates, or is there some other reason?
Posted June 19, 2013
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timppu: That just to get firmware updates, or is there some other reason?
Like all one-time online activations, it stops people from downloading the console illegally.
Posted June 19, 2013
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Adzeth: Like all one-time online activations, it stops people from downloading the console illegally.
You wouldn't download a console!
Posted June 19, 2013
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Grargar: You wouldn't download a console!
I would!
Posted June 19, 2013
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Fesin: I would!
You villain! I'm pretty sure you would also stoop as low as to download a bear!
Posted June 19, 2013
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Grargar: You wouldn't download a console!
You wouldn't steal a policeman's helmet!

(sorry about OT, couldn't resist.)

I think the main thing which bothers me about the new Xbox now is the mandatory Kinect, though I accept this is more a personal issue and not a negative for many people.
Posted June 19, 2013
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Goatbrush: You wouldn't steal a policeman's helmet!

(sorry about OT, couldn't resist.)

I think the main thing which bothers me about the new Xbox now is the mandatory Kinect, though I accept this is more a personal issue and not a negative for many people.
Nobody can resist a bit of the IT Crowd. ;)
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