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Poulscath: Besides, what's with this habit people have of equating "good graphics" with "photorealistic graphics"? Cartoony or stylised doesn't mean bad :P
No, but they don't necessarily mean 'not bad', either. I don't fault World of Warcraft for going with a cartoony, exaggerated visual style, but I do find a lot of fault with the execution. It looks sort of like something Rob Liefeld would draw, in my opinion.
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Poulscath: Besides, what's with this habit people have of equating "good graphics" with "photorealistic graphics"? Cartoony or stylised doesn't mean bad :P
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Mentalepsy: No, but they don't necessarily mean 'not bad', either. I don't fault World of Warcraft for going with a cartoony, exaggerated visual style, but I do find a lot of fault with the execution. It looks sort of like something Rob Liefeld would draw, in my opinion.
Oh, I freely admit that WoWs graphics are getting dated and weren't the best even at release, but there's far too many people who seem to thing that stylised or cartoony are bad by definition, regardless of their actual quality. (I'm not just referring to WoW here, remember the screaming at the cel shaded Zelda game?)

I have to wonder what those people think of the graphics in Pixar or Dreamworks films though :)
Post edited July 06, 2011 by Poulscath
It's like a drug dealer offering the first hit for free.
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Navagon: It's like a drug dealer offering the first hit for free.
That was exactly the analogy I saw used when Popcap put Bejeweled 2 for free one day.
And it was true.
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Navagon: It's like a drug dealer offering the first hit for free.
This case is more like free pot for occasional smokers.
Grrrrrrr... Just spent 3+ hours solo-ing Blackrock Depths... Glad I'm done with it forever!
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Poulscath: Personally, I believe the cartoony graphics are one of WoWs advantages, since they don't date so quickly and horribly as photorealistic graphics.

Besides, what's with this habit people have of equating "good graphics" with "photorealistic graphics"? Cartoony or stylised doesn't mean bad :P
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KavazovAngel: Yea, aesthetics are more important than realistic graphics, especially for MMOs.
Fuunny how miost older gamers wanted better graphics way back when, and thought better graphics were awesome to behold. Now such gamers think graphics don't matter as much. Bah, graphics being better improves immersion and make playing better sometimes. Not just the quality even but the style. And IMO the cartoony graphics don't make the world seem serious enough to me......too childish looking tbh.
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Mentalepsy: No, but they don't necessarily mean 'not bad', either. I don't fault World of Warcraft for going with a cartoony, exaggerated visual style, but I do find a lot of fault with the execution. It looks sort of like something Rob Liefeld would draw, in my opinion.
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Poulscath: Oh, I freely admit that WoWs graphics are getting dated and weren't the best even at release, but there's far too many people who seem to thing that stylised or cartoony are bad by definition, regardless of their actual quality. (I'm not just referring to WoW here, remember the screaming at the cel shaded Zelda game?)

I have to wonder what those people think of the graphics in Pixar or Dreamworks films though :)
It's that a game that tries sometimes(like with the new expansion Cataclysm and it's video ads) to be serious in plot fails with it's style of toony childish graphics. They don't fit the plot/storyline IMO.
Post edited July 07, 2011 by GameRager
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KavazovAngel: Yea, aesthetics are more important than realistic graphics, especially for MMOs.
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GameRager: Fuunny how miost older gamers wanted better graphics way back when, and thought better graphics were awesome to behold. Now such gamers think graphics don't matter as much. Bah, graphics being better improves immersion and make playing better sometimes. Not just the quality even but the style. And IMO the cartoony graphics don't make the world seem serious enough to me......too childish looking tbh.
That's the other assumption that annoys me, that cartoony = childish. That's a strictly recent/western attitude. It wasn't all that long ago that cartoons were intended for adults :P
See The Animation Age Ghetto (Warning: TVTropes link)
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GameRager: Fuunny how miost older gamers wanted better graphics way back when, and thought better graphics were awesome to behold. Now such gamers think graphics don't matter as much. Bah, graphics being better improves immersion and make playing better sometimes. Not just the quality even but the style. And IMO the cartoony graphics don't make the world seem serious enough to me......too childish looking tbh.
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Poulscath: That's the other assumption that annoys me, that cartoony = childish. That's a strictly recent/western attitude. It wasn't all that long ago that cartoons were intended for adults :P
See The Animation Age Ghetto (Warning: TVTropes link)
I don't mean all toons styles but the toony silly look.
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GameRager: It's that a game that tries sometimes(like with the new expansion Cataclysm and it's video ads) to be serious in plot fails with it's style of toony childish graphics. They don't fit the plot/storyline IMO.
They fit perfectly. :p If you've played all Warcraft games released so far, you'll notice that they use the same style for all games.
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GameRager: It's that a game that tries sometimes(like with the new expansion Cataclysm and it's video ads) to be serious in plot fails with it's style of toony childish graphics. They don't fit the plot/storyline IMO.
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KavazovAngel: They fit perfectly. :p If you've played all Warcraft games released so far, you'll notice that they use the same style for all games.
Nope they suck. Full stop.
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KavazovAngel: They fit perfectly. :p If you've played all Warcraft games released so far, you'll notice that they use the same style for all games.
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GameRager: Nope they suck. Full stop.
Haters gonna hate.
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GameRager: Nope they suck. Full stop.
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Lorfean: Haters gonna hate.
Well of course there are gonna be haters of such a shitty art style.
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GameRager: Well of course there are gonna be haters of such a shitty art style.
You're starting to sound like one of those sitcom characters who thinks they really hate someone's guts, until their friends point out that he/she is basically talking about this person non-stop, and the character suddenly realizes they're actually in love with them.
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GameRager: Well of course there are gonna be haters of such a shitty art style.
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Lorfean: You're starting to sound like one of those sitcom characters who thinks they really hate someone's guts, until their friends point out that he/she is basically talking about this person non-stop, and the character suddenly realizes they're actually in love with them.
Not really. I like the plot/setting just not the art style.