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anjohl: Well, you can't date an android. You can be in a relationship with one, I suppose, but you can't date. The basis of all humanity can be summed up by the following three statements:

1) Humans have intention. They act autonomously, without others knowing fully what their agenda is.

2) Humans procreate. The selection of a mate is the underpinning of all socioeconomic constructs and behavior.

3) Humans become joined as an economic and sociological pair consensually and with their own benefit in mind.

An android cannot, and likely will not ever be able to, meet any of these three criteria. And to those who claim that once we can map out the electronic surges that supposedly enable consciousness and thought, that we can make androids that are conscious and self-aware, I say that you are not giving evolution enough credit.
What is your definition of dating? For me it's going out with someone, usually to social places like a restaurant, bar or what have you.

1) A sentient being, be it organic or electronic, could meet the first criteria.

2) The LGBT community don't strictly meet the second criteria, yet they date.

3) If the android had the same rights as a human then they would too. This is a rights issue, one that the LGBT community is fighting for right now.

Over all this is a hypothetical, the android is sentient as part of that hypothetical. Whether or not it can be isn't a part of the hypothetical.
Sure why not. After all, we are all androids, albeit biological and very sophisticated. Problem is though, that feelings will have to be emulated and will therefore be fundamentally of a different nature than ours.
A more interesting question would be: Would you keep dating an android after finding out he/she is an android?

I'm quite confident the uncanny valley will never be bridged* even in a 100 years but my answer would be no, either way.


*One must admit there are already many living people who are quite fake enough to produce false positives if you'd place them in an android test taken by normal people, but the other way around with androids being taken for real people? No dice.
If it comes with Plug 'n Play...
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s23021536: Sure why not. After all, we are all androids, albeit biological and very sophisticated. Problem is though, that feelings will have to be emulated and will therefore be fundamentally of a different nature than ours.
Of a different nature, certainly, but psychology has advanced far enough in the past 150 years that an emotional response to given stimuli can be fairly accurately predicted. Even if an android wouldn't actually process emotions in the same way that our biological brains do, the emotional response could (theoretically) still be rendered indistinguishable from that of a human being.

I suppose 'emulated' is really the best word for it. We emulate a Commodore 64, and to all extents and purposes, the result that we're playing on the screen is more or less indistinguishable from a real C64 for most people. An android could theoretically do the same with emotions.

However, a C64's SID audio hardware has real wavetable oscillator and a real audio filter. An emulator replicates the effect of these, but doesn't really "filter" or "generate" the sound waves. There are certain differences between an emulated C64 and a real C64 that are imperceivable to most people. Sure there are audiophiles that can hear the difference, and other people are inevitably bothered that it's not the real deal, despite not actually perceiving the difference.

Likewise, psychologists will invariably be able to notice minor 'bugs' and 'inaccuracies' in an android's emotional processing, and other people will be made a little uncomfortable by the fact that the emotions aren't real. In the latter case, there doesn't necessarily have to be a problem with the android's emotional processing. Rather, the problem lies in the eye of the beholder. Many of a real human's emotional responses are based on compassion and empathy, or on cruelty and vindictiveness, and difficulty in being to feel compassion or empathy with an android will inevitably influence a relationship between a human being and an android.

And, as awalterj said, there's the issue of the uncanny valley, where despite there being more or less 100% emotional response accuracy, there will be certain things that just don't 'seem' right.

(By the by, anyone remember the old STTNG storyline about Data and his emotion chip, which was carried on into Star Trek: Generations? I think that chip was supposed to be essentially a 'hardware emulator')
Post edited February 10, 2014 by jamyskis
No, life is too short and priceless to waste on selfish fantasies and artificial beings.

Oh, not to marry, to date.. Hmm.. For a one night stand with your idol, maybe! :o
Post edited February 10, 2014 by koima57
The more interesting question is: would an android date you?

How would you react if an android rejected you? "*beep* Sorry, not my type. *beep* Type mismatch. *beep*".

Having sex with a very life-like android would possibly work (kind of high-tech masturbation), but having an actual relationship less so. I just couldn't get over the idea that she is less of a being than me, whose well-being and emotion don't really matter. And who is just programmed to like me, no matter what.
Post edited February 10, 2014 by timppu
I haven't read everything, but I'll try to analyse the issue:

Dating means going out together with the aim of assessing each other's suitability for an intimate relationship.

So the idea of dating an android would have as a basic assumption that androids are an integral part of society, that it's normal to go out with them (I mean, not outlawed or anything, even if it's frowned upon in some circles), that human-android intimate relationships are desired by at least some on both sides, and that generally this works out. In short, that androids are pretty much like humans in how they behave and what they desire and enjoy, only they are fabricated instead of being born and raised.

Given these assumptions, if I was single and not looking to have kids then dating an android would have been fine by me.

I think that the main problem here is the assumptions.
Post edited February 10, 2014 by ET3D
Perhaps, what are human beings other than tastefully wrapped layers of skin?...if organic body parts are replaced by bionic equivalents in the future, do we cease to be human?.....would you consider a decomposing pile of organic tissue human?
Post edited February 10, 2014 by Lionel212008
Speaking seriously, a future where dating androids is a common thing is, thinking more deeper on it, like a really dark era for the humanity. We spent timeless hours, weeks, months, some years, finding our perfect partner. In this path some people get better socially to meet some standards society asks for (a bad way in my opinion, but that's not the matter right now), some others just try harder or wait to get the person they want being themselves... and other people just get rejected over and over again and develop hate against the world.
Not my case. I have a girlfriend.
Seriously. Her name is... Erhm... Edith Postlater.
And she's fucking amazing. I love her.
Shut up, shut the fuck up voices.

Erhm... what I was talking about... oh yeah...
We all have been rejected once time in our life, except Duke Nukem, and as Nietzsche said (thanks to Arcanum now I can address this phrase), what doesn't kill us make us stronger. But... what would happen in a world where, if you are rejected, you could just get off with an android? you could gave your back to the rest of the world and just live in a false ilusion of love with a machine?

Love, cute moments? Whenever I want.
Support? Whenever I want.
Sex? Whenever I want.

Who cares about those problematic men/women?
Who cares about humans at all?
I'll get an easy life with an android that won't fuck me over while choosing which film to see at the cinema.


It seems like a great idea for a futuristic dystopia, but not as a great one, I imagine all the people being recluded in a fantasy world in their mind, being all alone by themselves sorrounded by human-like machines.
I gotta be honest, when A_Future_Pilot started this thread I thought he might be on something and the conversation wouldn't gain any traction, but look at this bad boy! Color me very impressed! The coolest thing is that (unless I missed something) with all these posts no one has started a fight. I guess there is hope for us after all. :D
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Nice_Boat: you could gave your back to the rest of the world and just live in a false ilusion (...)

Love, cute moments? Whenever I want.
Support? Whenever I want.
Sex? Whenever I want.

Who cares about those problematic men/women?
Who cares about humans at all?
(...)
It seems like a great idea for a futuristic dystopia, but not as a great one, I imagine all the people being recluded in a fantasy world in their mind, being all alone by themselves sorrounded by human-like machines.
Ummm... We're all gamers here. Consider that and it's implications for a moment.
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Nice_Boat: you could gave your back to the rest of the world and just live in a false ilusion (...)

Love, cute moments? Whenever I want.
Support? Whenever I want.
Sex? Whenever I want.

Who cares about those problematic men/women?
Who cares about humans at all?
(...)
It seems like a great idea for a futuristic dystopia, but not as a great one, I imagine all the people being recluded in a fantasy world in their mind, being all alone by themselves sorrounded by human-like machines.
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Vestin: Ummm... We're all gamers here. Consider that and it's implications for a moment.
Well, MMO's could be something like that. Yesterday I readed a post on this forums, on the TESO thread I really liked about it. But games is just another way of entertainment, an temporary escape from the reality, just like books or movies are. You don't have the same interaction with a game that you have with an android.

Indeed... As a borned gamer, everyday I walk on the street I feel myself more alive than all those smartphone addicts that walks without looking what they have in front of them.
If the android or robot looks something like that, why not?
Post edited February 10, 2014 by viperfdl
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awalterj: A more interesting question would be: Would you keep dating an android after finding out he/she is an android?
http://xkcd.com/632/ :-(