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Both Matrix 2 and 3 actively attempted to destroy what was a fabulous movie in the original matrix. Pirates 3 and 4 just sucked in their own right. They didnt have a huge negative impact on Curse of the Black Pearl.

So my vote goes for Matrix 3.


Edit: spelling...
Post edited September 13, 2012 by muttly13
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Wishbone: Oh, and I'd have put Highlander 3 on the list as well, were it not for the fact that Highlander 2 was so incredibly, maddeningly, soul-rendingly, GODDAMN FUCKING AWFUL!!! Seriously, that movie belongs at the top of any "worst movies of all time" list.

Generally, when it comes to Highlander, "there can be only one".
I was going to mention Highlander 3 as well, then I remembered how horrible Highlander 2: The Quickening was. To this day I have to pretend that movie never existed because it is so... well there are no words. One of the worst movies ever made. It is up there with Zardox.
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Wishbone: Alien 3
I thought Alien 3 was a solid movie, but it would have been a lot better if it had been a standalone film set in the same universe but with none of the previous characters. The fact that all of the most important stuff in the film happens BEFORE the opening credits is atrocious for a sequel, but if they'd just used someone other than Sigourney Weaver then they wouldn't need any of that foolishness.

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Wishbone: Batman Forever
I thought Val Kilmer did a good job in an otherwise terrible movie. At least it was better than Batman & Robin.
On a more positive note, I finally got to see Jackass 3D a few days ago and was pleasantly surprised. As a movie buff, I find the series genuinely interesting, much more so than any of the ones mentioned in this thread. Was kinda wary of the new one, though. Don't like the idea of 3D movies in general, and also felt that Number Two took the concept as far as is possible.
However, while Jackass 3D is a rehash, it's not a tired one, and all the elements I like about the earlier movies, the Dadaist themes, the way they play with the medium cinema and the simple fact that they are some of the very few movies genuinely without a plot, still worked a treat for me. God knows it doesn't happen often, but Jackass 3D is a blockbuster movie I can really get behind.
Post edited September 13, 2012 by Jaime
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Jorean: I was going to mention Highlander 3 as well, then I remembered how horrible Highlander 2: The Quickening was. To this day I have to pretend that movie never existed because it is so... well there are no words. One of the worst movies ever made. It is up there with Zardox.
At least with Zardoz, you can laugh about how awful it is. With Highlander 2, you can only cry...

It's interesting that both movies feature Sean Connery though (and in that connection one should probably also mention Sword of the Valiant). For me, those movies illustrate what seems to me to be a major difference between British and American actors.

The British approach to acting appears to be something like: "I'm an actor. Acting is my job. If you have a part for me, I'll happily accept it, and will act it to the best of my ability, regardless of how big a picture it is."

The American approach seems more like "I'm a star, who happens to be an actor. If you have a part for me, I may take it, if I think it's high-profile enough to benefit my career, and if my agent thinks it's a good idea. Of course, my name will have to be written pretty large on the poster, and you'd better have a huge paycheck ready for me."

This is naturally a gross generalization, but I do feel that British actors are generally not nearly as picky about the parts they accept as American actors are.
Wishbone: Is Sword of the Valiant where he (Connery) challenges the knight/kid/whatever to a game where he tells him to chop his head off then he does it to you? And the knight/kid/whatever gets a magical scarf to wear so the sword passes through his neck? I remember renting that and Solarbabies as a kid and as a result my dad revoked my renting privileges for years.

To keep with the thread topic. Uh... Wasn't there an Ace Ventura 3? Where he is a kid. I imagine that would suck.
Post edited September 13, 2012 by Jorean
I watched the Matrix 3 just recently and I thought it was great just as good as the first 2 honestly is the philosiphy of the movie more important then the plot

And also Terminator 3 was great aswell salvation ruined everything

come on how can you not like the scene with the coffen full of weapons
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Jorean: Wishbone: Is Sword of the Valiant where he (Connery) challenges the knight/kid/whatever to a game where he tells him to chop his head off then he does it to you? And the knight/kid/whatever gets a magical scarf to wear so the sword passes through his neck? I remember renting that and Solarbabies as a kid and as a result my dad revoked my renting privileges for years.
That's the one, yes ;-)

Sword of the Valiant: The Legend of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight
Pirates 2 and 3 are fine. A lot of complains I hear about it are the plot is too hard to follow (lolwut?). Really, my chief complaint with 3 is Calypso in general.

4's issue is the loss of ancillary characters (the bumbling British duo and the bumbling pirate duo). Plus the attempt at another love story.

Matrix 2 and 3 were terrible other than fight choreography. Plus, how dumb do you have to be to know the exact spot and angle they're digging towards you from, and you're too dumb to set-up a giant electromagnet there?
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Elmofongo: I watched the Matrix 3 just recently and I thought it was great just as good as the first 2 honestly is the philosiphy of the movie more important then the plot
The philosophy is a bucket of shit. The Matrix is one of those two-faced works without any integrity that all too often end up extremely popular. I can get behind a movie about emotionless badasses battling each other, and behind one that portrays a group of frail but brave humans fighting against soulless machines, but the Matrix films are about sunglasses and trenchcoat wearing ultracool stars holding up the ideal of humanity... doesn't that strike anyone else as silly?
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Jorean: I was going to mention Highlander 3 as well, then I remembered how horrible Highlander 2: The Sickening was.
FTFY.

But as someone said earlier, I'd have to go with Blade Trinity for the worst third movie of a trilogy... not that Blade 2 was all that great, but it was still far and above that... thing...
Post edited September 13, 2012 by Tallin
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Elmofongo: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/no-right-answer/6285-Worst-Third-Movie-of-a-Series-Ever

From the No Right Answer guys and the debate is Pirates of the Carribean 3 vs Matrix 3

But to be honest if you think Pirates 3 was bad watch fucking 4 worst thing ever

Also if we are gonna discuss this lets talk about it beyond just movies

Oh and inb4 mass effect 3 and Dark Knight Rises
There was no Matrix 3rd movie, they wisely considered the options and only made one movie. Because making any more movies would just lessen the impact of their Opus.
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Jorean: I was going to mention Highlander 3 as well, then I remembered how horrible Highlander 2: The Quickening was. To this day I have to pretend that movie never existed because it is so... well there are no words. One of the worst movies ever made. It is up there with Zardox.
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Wishbone: At least with Zardoz, you can laugh about how awful it is. With Highlander 2, you can only cry...

It's interesting that both movies feature Sean Connery though (and in that connection one should probably also mention Sword of the Valiant). For me, those movies illustrate what seems to me to be a major difference between British and American actors.

The British approach to acting appears to be something like: "I'm an actor. Acting is my job. If you have a part for me, I'll happily accept it, and will act it to the best of my ability, regardless of how big a picture it is."

The American approach seems more like "I'm a star, who happens to be an actor. If you have a part for me, I may take it, if I think it's high-profile enough to benefit my career, and if my agent thinks it's a good idea. Of course, my name will have to be written pretty large on the poster, and you'd better have a huge paycheck ready for me."

This is naturally a gross generalization, but I do feel that British actors are generally not nearly as picky about the parts they accept as American actors are.
Hmm, and yet American actors wipe the floor with British actors and the American film industry is the largest in the world by far.

British actors have far fewer options than their American counterparts do unless they're a big enough star to come to the US. There's also fewer actors to compete against and a longer history of acting.

What's more, I used to act, and quite honestly, anybody behaving like you're suggesting isn't going to have a very long career or is going to be stuck in a niche role for the rest of their short careers. If you can name an actor the odds are very good that they're working their asses off, even if they do have bizarre demands and an ego the size of Texas.
Post edited September 13, 2012 by hedwards
Compared to Pirates 2 and Matrix 2 Pirates 3 and Matrix 3 weren't bad.
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Jaime: On a more positive note, I finally got to see Jackass 3D a few days ago and was pleasantly surprised. As a movie buff, I find the series genuinely interesting, much more so than any of the ones mentioned in this thread. Was kinda wary of the new one, though. Don't like the idea of 3D movies in general, and also felt that Number Two took the concept as far as is possible.
However, while Jackass 3D is a rehash, it's not a tired one, and all the elements I like about the earlier movies, the Dadaist themes, the way they play with the medium cinema and the simple fact that they are some of the very few movies genuinely without a plot, still worked a treat for me. God knows it doesn't happen often, but Jackass 3D is a blockbuster movie I can really get behind.
I saw it in theaters in 3D though it was good i still think number 2 was the best but also I think Jackass 3D was the best 3D movie I've seen at least it added to the humorous stunts
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Elmofongo: I saw it in theaters in 3D though it was good i still think number 2 was the best but also I think Jackass 3D was the best 3D movie I've seen at least it added to the humorous stunts
Nice, I saw it on my old PC monitor. I guess the mark of a good 3D movie is that it also works without it.