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pimpmonkey2382: Que the "I wantz teh steam keys!1111!!111one"
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Maighstir: ¿Que?
yo no se.
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Zurvan7: also I don't understand the haste for pre order. The game will not run away nor will gog. You still have 9 months left to pre order. Just wait because by pre ordering the release date won't change.
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pimpmonkey2382: Que the "I wantz teh steam keys!1111!!111one"
Steam provides a valuable service to consumers that gog has thus far been unable to meet, until said service is met, it's not unreasonable for gog to provide steam keys when able.
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pimpmonkey2382: Que the "I wantz teh steam keys!1111!!111one"
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Mromson: Steam provides a valuable service to consumers that gog has thus far been unable to meet, until said service is met, it's not unreasonable for gog to provide steam keys when able.
Valuable service like DRM'ing you up the ass. And if you lose your internet and your steam closes incorrectly, cutting you off from the games you bought. GOG is a competing service. Please introduce me to you fucking drug dealer.
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pimpmonkey2382: No, they were given a firm NO.

You obviously have no experience with gog support either it sounds.
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Mromson: Yes, CLEARLY GoG has always been Good Old Games and they have NEVER changed from their original path... -_-' An official response and an official response, not a private customer service reply. I'm only interested in official replies, and in the event of a "no", I'm interested in the reasoning behind said decision. Anything short of that is hearsay and shouldn't be a valid answer to the question.
Then with all due respect, ask GOG respectively their SUPPORT as we users are all but sheeps, relying on hearsay and NO answer we could give would be valid enough for you. Ever.
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Mromson: Yes, CLEARLY GoG has always been Good Old Games and they have NEVER changed from their original path... -_-' An official response and an official response, not a private customer service reply. I'm only interested in official replies, and in the event of a "no", I'm interested in the reasoning behind said decision. Anything short of that is hearsay and shouldn't be a valid answer to the question.
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Siannah: Then with all due respect, ask GOG respectively their SUPPORT as we users are all but sheeps, relying on hearsay and NO answer we could give would be valid enough for you. Ever.
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Mromson: Yes, CLEARLY GoG has always been Good Old Games and they have NEVER changed from their original path... -_-' An official response and an official response, not a private customer service reply. I'm only interested in official replies, and in the event of a "no", I'm interested in the reasoning behind said decision. Anything short of that is hearsay and shouldn't be a valid answer to the question.
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Siannah: Then with all due respect, ask GOG respectively their SUPPORT as we users are all but sheeps, relying on hearsay and NO answer we could give would be valid enough for you. Ever.
I didn't ask for users to make up an answer, I asked for the answer. If the answer isn't available then it's not available. But instead I was met with flames and childish remarks attempting to derail my thread. Contacting support when the information isn't officially available would be a moot point.
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Siannah: Then with all due respect, ask GOG respectively their SUPPORT as we users are all but sheeps, relying on hearsay and NO answer we could give would be valid enough for you. Ever.
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Mromson: I didn't ask for users to make up an answer, I asked for the answer. If the answer isn't available then it's not available. But instead I was met with flames and childish remarks attempting to derail my thread. Contacting support when the information isn't officially available would be a moot point.
Boo fucking hoo.
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Mromson: So in other words; no official reply has addressed this issue, beyond a couple of supposed "support replies" (who are unlikely to provide new information about anything).
If you're so mistrusting the info and evidence provided to you here on the forum, why don't you contact support yourself instead?
Or do you consider only blue text posts as "official"?


EDIT: I give up. ;-P
Post edited June 09, 2014 by HypersomniacLive
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Mromson: Steam provides a valuable service to consumers that gog has thus far been unable to meet
Wait, what ?

Edit : at the very least you can't compare both on every aspect at once. You can compare one aspect at a time, but you can't argue that gog service is strictly inferior to steam. That may really be your honest opinion, it doesn't allow you to spout such nonsense without being contradicted on a general level.
Post edited June 09, 2014 by Potzato
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Mromson: But instead I was met with flames and childish remarks attempting to derail my thread. Contacting support when the information isn't officially available would be a moot point.
Wait, what again ?
Sir, you definitely are a conundrum wrapped in a rude mystery.

And : this isn't your thread, it's been years that threads on gog are born free and equal.

(edit : If threads were property, TinyPoacher the infamous derailer would have been hanged in a week :)
Post edited June 09, 2014 by Potzato
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Mromson: Steam provides a valuable service to consumers that gog has thus far been unable to meet
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Potzato: Wait, what ?

Edit : at the very least you can't compare both on every aspect at once. You can compare one aspect at a time, but you can't argue that gog service is strictly inferior to steam. That may really be your honest opinion, it doesn't allow you to spout such nonsense without being contradicted on a general level.
Why on earth would I purchase something on gog.com if I thought that Steam provided a better service in every category? Steam provides one important difference that gog has thus far been unable to provide: automatic updates. I purchase from gog when possible, however automatic updates are still important and useful - you can disagree, but I don't see why anyone would think such nonsense.
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Mromson: Steam provides a valuable service to consumers that gog has thus far been unable to meet, until said service is met, it's not unreasonable for gog to provide steam keys when able.
Wrong, it's entirely unreasonable.
- nobody needs the same game on two different digital platforms.
- handing out free keys for a competing platform is not reasonable.
- doing so increases the chance, that someone uses his bought game on GOG while selling the additional free Steamkey for cash.

If Steam provides such superior service for you compared with GOG, just buy / pre-order the game on Steam?

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Mromson: Why on earth would I purchase something on gog.com if I thought that Steam provided a better service in every category? Steam provides one important difference that gog has thus far been unable to provide: automatic updates. I purchase from gog when possible, however automatic updates are still important and useful - you can disagree, but I don't see why anyone would think such nonsense.
Then don't. Go with Steam and be happy with it. We won't hold you back. In fact, we actually would dare to question you, wtf you're still doing here.
On a side note: Galaxy. Scheduled to probably come at the same time as the Witcher 3, which at least would be reasonable to assume so.

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Mromson: I didn't ask for users to make up an answer, I asked for the answer. If the answer isn't available then it's not available. But instead I was met with flames and childish remarks attempting to derail my thread. Contacting support when the information isn't officially available would be a moot point.
On the official pre-order page click on FAQ, select question 11 and read how to proceed.
This is the official way. Contacting support. If that isn't good enough for you and you pretty much see only a blue reply as viable enough AND wanting to discuss it in case of a "no" as answer - good luck because it might come off as a bit... unreasonable... on their side.
Post edited June 09, 2014 by Siannah
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Mromson: Why on earth would I purchase something on gog.com if I thought that Steam provided a better service in every category
Exactly, this is your opinion, you can share it all you want. People will or won't care, and they won't dispute you that right.

But if you begin to bear judgments like "Steam provides a valuable service to consumers that gog has thus far been unable to meet" as if it was a fact, I will tell you otherwise.
Opinion as fact : you can do better than that.

Go ask your questions on steam forums or CDPR's if our lights doesn't meet your truths.
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Siannah: If Steam provides such superior service for you compared with GOG, just buy / pre-order the game on Steam?
In fact, here's the best answer to your problems ^
Post edited June 09, 2014 by Potzato
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Mromson: Steam provides a valuable service to consumers that gog has thus far been unable to meet, until said service is met, it's not unreasonable for gog to provide steam keys when able.
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Siannah: Wrong, it's entirely unreasonable.
- nobody needs the same game on two different digital platforms.
- handing out free keys for a competing platform is not reasonable.
- doing so increases the chance, that someone uses his bought game on GOG while selling the additional free Steamkey for cash.

If Steam provides such superior service for you compared with GOG, just buy / pre-order the game on Steam?

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Mromson: Why on earth would I purchase something on gog.com if I thought that Steam provided a better service in every category? Steam provides one important difference that gog has thus far been unable to provide: automatic updates. I purchase from gog when possible, however automatic updates are still important and useful - you can disagree, but I don't see why anyone would think such nonsense.
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Siannah: Then don't. Go with Steam and be happy with it. We won't hold you back. In fact, we actually would dare to question you, wtf you're still doing here.
On a side note: Galaxy. Scheduled to probably come at the same time as the Witcher 3, which at least would be reasonable to assume so.

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Mromson: I didn't ask for users to make up an answer, I asked for the answer. If the answer isn't available then it's not available. But instead I was met with flames and childish remarks attempting to derail my thread. Contacting support when the information isn't officially available would be a moot point.
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Siannah: On the official pre-order page click on FAQ, select question 11 and read how to proceed.
This is the official way. Contacting support. If that isn't good enough for you and you pretty much see only a blue reply as viable enough AND wanting to discuss it in case of a "no" as answer - good luck.
Some people play on multiple platforms and stick with the biggest one until the smaller one gains enough traction/features to pull ahead. What you're suggesting is that people who use steam should continue to use steam because they're already locked into the system and should be given no incentive to break out from it. Steam allows publishers/developers an unlimited amount of keys because they know they can easily compete by offering services no one else is offering - and gog, by not giving out steam keys when possible, is simply telling existing steam customers to stick with the old stuff, because the new stuff (ie. GOG) isn't backwards compatible towards other services. While (ironically) Witcher games you buy on Steam can easily be redeemed on gog - so why would you give gog your money? The answer is their DRM policy - which is great, it's why I stick around, but that doesn't mean I'll blindly drum my head against the f'kin bucket whenever anyone raises a finger to point out its flaws (irregardless of whether they're attempting to fix them or not).

You don't decide how many platforms I deserve to have my game on, just as you don't get to decide how many times I should be allowed to install my games, nor on how many computers I can use it on. You can easily solve key-selling by linking two accounts together, and plenty of developers and publishers (and especially humble bundle) provide their games on multiple services (which again, Valve offers for FREE) - so it's certainly not unreasonable by any streach of the imagination.

And I've already replied as to why contacting support is pointless. Then again, as is apparently poking into this forum, which seems to purely breed uninformed toxic and/or nonsensical replies.
Post edited June 09, 2014 by Mromson
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Mromson: Some people play on multiple platforms and stick with the biggest one until the smaller one gains enough traction/features to pull ahead.
The smaller one NEVER gains enough traction / features to pull ahead, as long as the majority sticks with the biggest one - flaw in your logic.

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Mromson: What you're suggesting is that people who use steam should continue to use steam because they're already locked into the system and should be given no incentive to break out from it.
No, I don't. If you're not happy with GOG / it's features / whatever and think of Steam as so much better, then yes, stick with Steam. There are reasons to consider GOG as better / equal / worse but still a viable option, but I won't tell you how you should feel / think about GOG, Steam or any other platform.
However you now need to tell me where's the incentive to break away from it by handling out free Steam keys....

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Mromson: Steam allows publishers/developers an unlimited amount of keys because they know they can easily compete by offering services no one else is offering - and gog, by not giving out steam keys when possible, is simply telling existing steam customers to stick with the old stuff, because the new stuff (ie. GOG) isn't backwards compatible towards other services.
Ironically you failed to mention the "backward compatibility" of Steam. Or Origin. Uplay. Battlenet. Or any other major player.

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Mromson: While (ironically) Witcher games you buy on Steam can easily be redeemed on gog - so why would you give gog your money? The answer is their DRM policy - which is great, it's why I stick around, but that doesn't mean I'll blindly drum my head against the f'kin bucket whenever anyone raises a finger to point out its flaws (irregardless of whether they're attempting to fix them or not).
This applies to the Witcher 1 and 2. There is NO word (official or not) that this will or might come with the Witcher 3. Fact.
It also wasn't available from release on nor was it communicated at or before release - reason is simple: why buy on GOG when buying on Steam gives me a Steam- AND GOG-version? Fact.
Assuming that it will be the same for the Witcher 3, is just that - an assumption. Fact.
Demanding that it should be handled the same way, only this time from release day on, is beyond unreasonable and flat out stupid. Opinion.

Now please tell me of ANY other example of major players (which neither Humble or any other bundle seller is) that offered that.

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Mromson: You don't decide how many platforms I deserve to have my game on, just as you don't get to decide how many times I should be allowed to install my games, nor on how many computers I can use it on.
No I don't and that never was my intention.

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Mromson: And I've already replied as to why contacting support is pointless. Then again, as is apparently poking into this forum, which seems to purely breed uninformed toxic and/or nonsensical replies.
There is no other official answer. There is no other official way.
Which part of it you didn't understood?
Post edited June 09, 2014 by Siannah