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Lexor: It was obvious? You had to know? Heh. I'm busy person, don't have time to sit all day and read all info about games.
That's a pretty belligerent statement, in my eyes... It sounds like a relatively weak variant of the "I'm ignorant, therefore I'm superior to you by virtue of different priorities" argument.

Although it could be just a defensive "I didn't know, but let me explain why you shouldn't look down on me" statement...
Post edited May 28, 2011 by Vestin
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Vestin: ...
If game seller related to game producer in his official FAQ says that his version of the game will be valuable and special in some way why should I not trust him and look for some other info?
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Lexor: If game seller related to game producer in his official FAQ says that his version of the game will be valuable and special in some way why should I not trust him and look for some other info?
That's an entirely different issue. I was simply noting something I've noticed in your rhetoric.

As for the whole "exclusive DRMlessness" issue - I can see both sides of the story. I know that having X is one thing, the exclusivity of it is another. I understand that you are upset because you (rightfully) perceive other people getting something as unfair towards you.
On the other hand - I think the pros outweigh the cons. In the end - it's a lot better for everyone to get their game DRMless, promises be damned.
It can also be argued that what you received was A) temporal exclusivity (in the sense in which, for example, some game reviews used to be "exclusive" because other magazines weren't allowed to write them until a month later) and B) certainty (that YOUR copy WILL be DRMfree, no matter what others get).

I also suspect that there were reasons for CDP guys NOT to disclose all the information before launch, which makes the picture even more complicated.
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Lexor: Quote from the W2 FAQ:
Is The Witcher 2 really be completely DRM free? It's a brand-new game!
Yes. We will never sell our customers games with DRM and GOG.com is the one and only place to get The Witcher 2 without any form of DRM.

So.... what so special about GOG version of W2 now after patch looking at ingame content? It was announced as the only no-DRM version and now all versions have that. I think many people has bought W2 on GOG just because of that advertisement. Are there any plans to GOG version become special again? Maybe add some DLC?
The special things to me are:

~ we supported CD Projekt RED 110%, as in, they got all the money
~ we were given preferential treatment because of this
~ we can get the game again, at any time, unlike retail if it's lost, stolen, etc.

Don't feel slighted, feel proud! (just like orcishgamer said) :D

EDIT: fixed quoting cause I didn't like it
Post edited May 29, 2011 by shane-o
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Lexor: It was obvious? You had to know? Heh. I'm busy person, don't have time to sit all day and read all info about games. I saw info that W2 will have DRM, and then saw GOG's FAQ (which is still online even when not true anymore). :)
Gift a copy of disc, leave goodies for yourself.
1. DRM causes performance bug in game
2. Option A: fix bug would be complex and expensive
Option B: easy way => remove DRM
3. Company goes with Option B
4. Anti-DRM people go "Yey! Victory! We won!"

Right... "we" won...

I got it on GoG and I'm not really sorry but please stop the fanboyism. If someone had a hard time choosing between physical goods and DRM free then he or she has every right to now feel cheated. Come on, the whole marketing campaign was based on "GoG is the only place where you can get The Witcher 2 DRM free".

Before replying have the decency and put yourself in the other side's shoes. If you like physical goods and DRM free you now have 2 options:

A. Physical Copy + DRM free
B. GoG version DRM free

Honestly, which one is superior?
Good post, Aningan. +1

Especially liked:

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Aningan: Before replying have the decency and put yourself in the other side's shoes.
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Aningan: 1. DRM causes performance bug in game
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Then, in your opinion, what would be the better course of action?
Post edited May 29, 2011 by Thiev
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Aningan: 1. DRM causes performance bug in game
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Thiev: Then, in your opinion, what would be the better course of action?
First you answer my question, then I answer yours.
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Aningan: A. Physical Copy + DRM free
B. GoG version DRM free

Honestly, which one is superior?
Are we talking about Collector's Edition or regular Premium Edition?

Because there's not much difference between Premium and GOG (GOG is better becuase you get the artbook). The only nice physical thing is Huge CE box and Artbook, everything else is something that'll stay in box.
Post edited May 29, 2011 by SLP2000
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Aningan: I got it on GoG and I'm not really sorry but please stop the fanboyism. If someone had a hard time choosing between physical goods and DRM free then he or she has every right to now feel cheated. Come on, the whole marketing campaign was based on "GoG is the only place where you can get The Witcher 2 DRM free".

Before replying have the decency and put yourself in the other side's shoes. If you like physical goods and DRM free you now have 2 options:

A. Physical Copy + DRM free
B. GoG version DRM free

Honestly, which one is superior?
This is true, and I struggled with which version to get myself because of the DRM issue. That said I have three main responses:

1) You still voted for DRM free by helping to make the GOG version hopefully a good seller. It is still the only version that was DRM free for release, which means it is the only version where the statement "I am buying this one for DRM free purposes" was made.

2) We pretty much knew for sure the DRM would be removed from all versions eventually, just like the original Witcher. The only thing surprising was how fast that occurred. Since the main issue with DRM is the longevity of the product, the fact it would be patched out anyway made the boxed copy pretty justifiable (to me anyway) despite GOG's "DRM free" exclusivity.

3) As someone else said, what was their alternative? The DRM was causing performance issues and they knew they would patch the DRM out eventually. Since the game was already on torrent sites why not just patch it out now? That decision was surprising and motivated by their underestimating the effect of DRM on framerate, but it was still the best decision for their customers which is something we should applaud.

I do get where you are coming from and I am glad I went with the boxed version since the DRM was removed anyway, so I know what you mean. That said I don't think CDP could have acted any better under the circumstances.
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Aningan: First you answer my question, then I answer yours.
About version superiority? I honestly don't hold one above the other.
But then, if I really want retail version I buy it regardless of DRM and then crack it if it's troublesome enough.

Which means I'm not really a good representative here.
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Aningan: [...] Before replying have the decency and put yourself in the other side's shoes. If you like physical goods and DRM free you now have 2 options:

A. Physical Copy + DRM free
B. GoG version DRM free

Honestly, which one is superior?[...]
The GoG one due to the complete support for CD Projekt RED (and other reasons I mentioned in my previous post on the first page)
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Thiev: About version superiority? I honestly don't hold one above the other.
But then, if I really want retail version I buy it regardless of DRM and then crack it if it's troublesome enough.

Which means I'm not really a good representative here.
Yes. You do not hold one above the other. But I asked to put yourself in the shoes of the other guy. Because that is the problem. Someone comes and complains and everyone jumps him because they don't care about the same things. And that's fine.

And it's fine because I can see their side of the story. They do not care about the physical goods, they care about supporting the company. So it makes sense then that GoG is superior. But I have a problem when they don't have the decency to do the same. Because then they turn into fanboys. And I'm not a fan of fanboys (pun intended :P ).
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Aningan: Someone comes and complains and everyone jumps him because they don't care about the same things.
Eh, I didn't notice any personal attacks on Lexor here. He stated his opinion, received others' opinions in turn. Unless I misunderstood something along the way.