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Posted May 19, 2011
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Lehti: Um, well, maybe another game then, as it sounds like you very much dislike Witcher? :)

I'd suggest Mass Effect 1&2 if you've managed to avoid those. Alpha Protocol is also very underrated IMHO.
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BrianX: I LOVE the Witcher because of the excellent RPG elements, the fantasy setting, the story, the monsters, the characters, etc. It is just the profanity that turns me off. It would be like hanging around a cool friend but having to hear them cuss ALL the time, it would be jarring and eventually grating on the nerves.

I want to finish the 1st game, but until I find a patch for the 'Adult' stuff, I will probably not finish it.

Also, its not like profanity happens all the time in the game, but its happened so often and at weird times that it has jarred me out of the immersion because it just seems so tacked on as if American culture suddenly intruded into the game pulling me out of the setting.

Again, I like the GAME mechanics, etc, its the tacked on 'Adult' stuff that really turns me off. I'm going to play Drakensang: River of Time until I find a patch to Witcher 1 that removes the profanity.
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Lehti: Thank you for calling me that. Nice way to reward an honest attempt to help you.

What was that "adult"-bit you started with? :-/

[edit] removed attempts to suggest some other good games, as you're here just to troll.
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BrianX: Oh please. You do know why I added the ;) at the end of the statement, right? It was because I was teasing :)

You sir, are no porno-freak because if you were you would be downloading pr0n right now instead of engaging in relevant discussion ;)
Fine, then don't play the game. You can't expect a patch for every game in this world you wan't to play but at same time, don't want to play because of some of the content in the game. You are not the king of the world. And the day the Witcher series starts catering to people like you is the day, I lose interest in the Witcher series because then the Witcher games will be boring, too unrealistic etc.
Posted May 19, 2011
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BrianX: I mean CDProject is known to go all out for their fans, why not just add a simple option?
I hate half the stuff you put in the game, but I'm a total fan, so pander to me.

And way to use your kids for your benefit there. That's outstanding.
Posted May 19, 2011
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Tulivu: Wow, you have a real nack for fan made content.


EDIT: If they want to add a PG button, great, but no dev is obligated to pander to anyone.
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BrianX: I realize this, but at least it would be gracious to offer choices, right? I mean CDProject is known to go all out for their fans, why not just add a simple option? Of course, simple isn't so simple because they would have to probably record separate voice tracks sans profanity. Still, it COULD be done. Maybe there is a MOD out there I am just missing...
If you were asking for anything else this wouldn't be a problem, but profanity? I completely understand how gratuitous swearing breaks immersion but you're shit out of luck if you expect an audio patch. Too much trouble, it would go beyond gracious.

EDIT: I made a patch where I dubbed myself saying "pancake" instead of F***. Would that help? Also, I am curious how you would feel if PG games that you like (we'll use My Little Pony for example) all came with gratuitous content buttons (friggin' hilarious).
Post edited May 19, 2011 by Tulivu
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macuahuitlgog: The sex isn't excessive. It is realistic.
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bazilisek: I'll chalk this one to "different life experience".
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macuahuitlgog: And are you complaining that there are too many attractive women in the game? What is wrong with you?
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bazilisek: Part of the answer probably is that I don't find half-dressed strumpets very attractive, and there is a distinct lack of any other female life form in the whole bloody game.
I think it just comes down to different maturity levels. I'm a 38 year old fart who is married, and I actually enjoy more mature, realistic, experiences. I like what you wrote about Planescape: Torment, that is probably my maturity level right now. It just seems to me that the Witcher 1 (havent played Witcher 2) is schizophrenic in its idea of 'Adult' and maturity. On the one hand you have this really awesome character development with certain characters and the gritty setting with the awesome creatures, but then, on the other hand, you have strumpets with no personality and all looks wandering the streets with profanity all over the place. I have a feeling that the 'Adult' stuff in the Witcher was added/tacked on later as an afterthought and probably because the RPG genre is niche, they needed a selling point. And what sells better than sex and profanity?

I can think of tons of 'Adult' situated comedies, action movies, etc, that are tastefully done. I remember watching the Terminator 1 and The Thing (80s version) and NONE of the profanity or gore or nudity was jarring because it was tastefully done and well within context.
Posted May 19, 2011
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macuahuitlgog: The sex isn't excessive. It is realistic.
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bazilisek: I'll chalk this one to "different life experience".
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macuahuitlgog: And are you complaining that there are too many attractive women in the game? What is wrong with you?
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bazilisek: Part of the answer probably is that I don't find half-dressed strumpets very attractive, and there is a distinct lack of any other female life form in the whole bloody game.
"different life experience"? Explain yourself.

I understand your complaint now with the women in the game. We all have different tastes. And I can imagine,, it is annoying to see the kind of women nonstop that you don't find attractive. There should of been more variety in the game.
Posted May 19, 2011
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nondeplumage: Fuck censorship. Long live pussy.
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Lehti: This isn't censorship, this is someone just wanting to choose a toned-down version of the game. Wouldn't want that myself, but it doesn't bother me that someone does.

Also, I think the Australian version of Witcher 2 is censored, so you might be able to get that. Not sure what it removes or changes, though.
I will check it out, thanks :) You are also correct that I don't want it completely censored (removal of violence, etc), I just want it toned down in certain areas.
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Lehti: This isn't censorship, this is someone just wanting to choose a toned-down version of the game. Wouldn't want that myself, but it doesn't bother me that someone does.
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nondeplumage: "Would you mind putting in a lot of work to censor the game just for my poor wounded sensitivity? Because profanity and sex are silly, but man, I loved the killing."
But the violence is within the context of the universe nondeplumage. Granted, whores and strumpets and profanity is too, but it really wasn't tastefully done and seemed tacked on.
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BrianX: Hello GOG,

I was wondering if Witcher 1 and 2 might be available in the near future as PG or PG-13 censored titles. I like the 1st game, but its difficult for me to continue playing it because of the silly profanity and sexual stuff. I understand the need for there to be 'adult' games, but I honestly don't see the point of all the profanity and sexuality really adding anything to the combat, RPG elements, and overall story. Its as if they were tacked on to make it more 'adult.'

Again, the 1st game is great as an RPG with its combat, creatures, setting (oh wow, the setting!), and everything else, but it is hard for me to stomach the silly profanity and sexual overtones.

My main question is this: can you guys make a patch that takes out the profanity and sexual stuff? I live in the USA, so I'm not sure if there is a version that eliminates those elements.

Thanks!
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Tulivu: Have you looked around the modding community yet? It would not be expediant for GOG to make a second version and I can't remember them ever just offering a patch before. TW is marketed towards a "mature" fanbase so you are going to have an easier time finding booby patches than censor patches but you never know.
Thanks for the suggestions!
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BrianX: The profanity mainly. Its just so jarring, especially in a fantasy setting, to hear a dwarf or elf say 'C**k Sucker!" I mean, come on, REALLY?! I mean at least be creative and come up with a term that sounds like a curse-word but fits the universe. For example, in the new Battlestar Galactica series, the characters use 'Frak' instead of F**K. That was actually pretty creative. With a fantasy universe they could even be more creative, like having a dwarf say "By Bilbo's Blasted Boxers" or something. A character can still use something pretty extreme without having to use the F word or something worse. I also want to be sure my kids won't stumble upon the game and get the wrong idea.
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Lehti: Ok. You're probably out of luck then, as it'd require quite a lot of work from CD Projekt to remove all the profane audio. Not all of the profanity is in the random NPC banter either. You may hate it, but it is a part of the world as CDProjekt / Sapkowski intended. :/
I think you are right. Its not that I hate it, if its tastefully done (here and there for impact), but it just seemed over the top to me. I might read the books though, the writer might actually have done the adult stuff tastefully.
Post edited May 19, 2011 by BrianX
Posted May 19, 2011
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BrianX: I have a feeling that the 'Adult' stuff in the Witcher was added/tacked on later as an afterthought and probably because the RPG genre is niche, they needed a selling point. And what sells better than sex and profanity?
You've just managed to cram an extraordinary amount of bullshit into two sentences, well done. You either didn't bother reading what others have already stated multiple times or simply are a troll...
Posted May 19, 2011


Oh please. You do know why I added the ;) at the end of the statement, right? It was because I was teasing :)

You sir, are no porno-freak because if you were you would be downloading pr0n right now instead of engaging in relevant discussion ;)
Ok, apology accepted. Slight overreaction, but I'd prefer you didn't judge me even if I do like my Witcher uncensored. :)
Posted May 19, 2011
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carlosjuero: Doubtful OP.

As others have stated, The Witcher 1 was originally censored [the sex cards at least] in the US - the Directors Cut patch removes that censorship, so if you can get an original copy of TW 1 US [Enhanced Edition, no updates] then it will remove the nudity in the sex cards.

As for removing the profanity? That would require an entire new re-do of the voice acting for every single line that contains profanity. Not only is it a tad too time intensive for a game as old as TW 1, but it is cost prohibitive [I truly doubt that there would be enough sales of the lower toned version to make up for the increased costs].

Both The Witcher 1 and The Witcher 2 are marketed as Mature games. I hate to say it, but this is a case of either dealing with it or following your personal morals and not playing/purchasing a game that has a rating over PG-13. It is like going into an R-rated movie and complaining about language/nudity/etc - you knew what the rating was when you were going in and, in my eyes, lose justification for complaints when you sit down to watch it knowing the rating.

I mean no offense to the Original Poster, but ratings are there for a reason [whether they make sense all of the times or not - there are some games marked AO that barely deserve the rating, and some games marked Teen that have more violence than AO games; the whole rating system is a tad "off", but Mature/AO games can be almost guaranteed to have profanity/nudity/mature [/disturbing] themes
You are right about the R-rating deserves more caution, but I have played other games where it was rated Adult and the themes were done tastefully (Fallout 3). I guess I really should have done my research :(
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Aningan: Fantasy setting does not mean Faerie Land. The games are based on books. Books where action takes place in a dark fantasy universe, not unlike the dark reality. Actually there are a lot of parallels with reality. The "profanity", it adds to the setting.
Some of it adds to it, I will agree, depending on the character. Its just when there is a constant stream of it that it breaks the immersion factor and seems tacked on just to be 'cool' and 'adult.'
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BrianX: If you REALLY want to go 'Adult' then why not GO ALL OUT? For example, why not have a giant white veined penis enter into Triss slowly with fantasy-funk music? Yeah, its a silly example, but the 'Adult' stuff (mainly the profanity) are just so jarring and out of place that it seems the creators just tacked it on to be 'cool.'
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Delixe: Point = Missed. There is a difference between mature and adult. Swearing is a part of The Witcher it's just how people talk in that universe and to be honest a stroll down any New York or London street will have you hearing far worse.
Depends on where you stroll. There are some places in New York City or London where it would be very odd to hear the type and amount of swearing that Witcher 1 does.
Post edited May 19, 2011 by BrianX
Posted May 19, 2011
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Oh please. You do know why I added the ;) at the end of the statement, right? It was because I was teasing :)

You sir, are no porno-freak because if you were you would be downloading pr0n right now instead of engaging in relevant discussion ;)
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Lehti: Ok, apology accepted. Slight overreaction, but I'd prefer you didn't judge me even if I do like my Witcher uncensored. :)
Your robot facade doesn't fool me you porno freak. You just have it on another tab.
Posted May 19, 2011
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Lehti: Ok, apology accepted. Slight overreaction, but I'd prefer you didn't judge me even if I do like my Witcher uncensored. :)
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Tulivu: Your robot facade doesn't fool me you porno freak. You just have it on another tab.
I AM UNDONE
Posted May 19, 2011
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BrianX: Hello GOG,

I was wondering if Witcher 1 and 2 might be available in the near future as PG or PG-13 censored titles. I like the 1st game, but its difficult for me to continue playing it because of the silly profanity and sexual stuff. I understand the need for there to be 'adult' games, but I honestly don't see the point of all the profanity and sexuality really adding anything to the combat, RPG elements, and overall story. Its as if they were tacked on to make it more 'adult.'

Again, the 1st game is great as an RPG with its combat, creatures, setting (oh wow, the setting!), and everything else, but it is hard for me to stomach the silly profanity and sexual overtones.

My main question is this: can you guys make a patch that takes out the profanity and sexual stuff? I live in the USA, so I'm not sure if there is a version that eliminates those elements.

Thanks!
I can't believe there are still pansies like you around. Still buying games like portal and tetris cause it doesn't offend the eyes and ears. the witcher is a mature rated game for the language and nudity in the game. If you have a problem with that then just don't buy it you fuckin pansie. your an adult now so its ok to swear and watch soft porn. oh i found a website for a patch for the witcher.

[[EDIT: This made-up would be unnecessarily inflammatory. So I've removed it. Robust debate is fine. Deliberately using hateful language is not. Please stick to the civil side of things, bossonova.

--TheEnigmaticT]]
Post edited May 19, 2011 by TheEnigmaticT
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nondeplumage: Fuck censorship. Long live pussy.
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macuahuitlgog: I agree. One of the reasons I love the Witcher series is because of the sex. If you dislike sex(I can't understand why), then maybe you should play on the Nintendo Wii or Nintendo 3DS only and forget about PC gaming...
Oh please, bad argument. Is sex in the Witcher REAL?! I don't think so. Do I have sex with my wife? Yes. Real sex powns fake silly 3D polygonal sex hands down. I mean come one, that is one lame argument to imply that I don't like sex if I don't like the way they portray women and sex in the Witcher 1, try again.
Posted May 19, 2011
Here's an idea, why not simply play the game with polish voice-overs with English subtitles instead of English voices (American accents destroy immersion anyways)

Also, Gog are not developers nor do they have contact with any video game developers, so they have absolutely no control over what type of content is in the game. Furthermore, even if they did I don't like the idea of the game content being changed because of people who buy mature-rated games and then complain about the nudity and foul language.

Thank CROM this game wasn't developed in America, or Australia for that matter!
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BrianX: Depends on where you stroll. There are some places in New York City or London where it would be very odd to hear the type and amount of swearing that Witcher 1 does.
I guess the point I was making which seems to have been lost is that The Witcher is very close to it's source material and that's a good thing. You could also say A Game of Thrones is full of sex and violence but it's in the books as well. When things stray from the source material they not only upset the fans but they tend to butcher the story. Case in point is the movie Watchmen which Alan Moore was none too pleased with.
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