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Posted May 06, 2012
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timppu: For example, I would have very much preferred that the "Windows XP mode" would have been offered to all Win7 editions, unless there is really some technical reason it can't be provided to Windows 7 Home users. As it is, I presume the restriction is there just to push the sales of more expensive editions.
If you already have a XP license key, VirtualBox is a much better virtualization environment. XP Mode was intended for business use only (it is very crappy for gaming).
Posted May 06, 2012
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somegamer786: I say Windows 8 will be a flop in the desktop world like M.E.
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Egotomb: Depends how much they make from all that DLC in the app store.
True but what I meant was it looks like it'll only be good on tablets.
Posted May 06, 2012
The lack of DVD support is largely a non-issue. OEMs have often shipped Vista/7 PCs with third-party DVD software (even though these versions have built-in DVD playback), and this trend will no doubt continue with Windows 8.

The wording of the FAQ indicates that installing third-party DVD software won't expose the codecs to Windows Media Player (as in past versions), meaning you would have to use a third-party player, but that's not the end of the world either.

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Crosmando: Like with all Windows version, they won't be worth switching to until at least the first service pack
This was very true for XP, and true for Vista to a lesser extent, but it is completely untrue for Windows 7; Windows 7's SP1 delivered hardly any new fixes that hadn't already been issued as a Windows Update. It was by no means a must-have upgrade.

Windows 8 continues the overhauled development process established with Windows 7. As with Windows 7's beta, Windows 8's Consumer Preview is already stable and compatible enough for everyday use (including gaming).

Even in its incomplete state Windows 8 has surpassed Windows 7 SP1 in raw performance; start up and shut down are noticeably faster on the same hardware, and memory use has been further optimised. It's probably not a big enough difference to justify the cost of upgrading for many, but for those wanting the absolute best Windows version Windows 8 is where it's at, Metro or no Metro.
Posted May 06, 2012
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Arkose: Even in its incomplete state Windows 8 has surpassed Windows 7 SP1 in raw performance; start up and shut down are noticeably faster on the same hardware, and memory use has been further optimised. It's probably not a big enough difference to justify the cost of upgrading for many, but for those wanting the absolute best Windows version Windows 8 is where it's at, Metro or no Metro.
Unless you have a very old/low spec hardware the performance difference are mostly negligible, definitely not something to push that much peoples to switch. Also, I suspect the clunky interface will probably turn off way more potential updater than the slightly improve performance will convince.
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Arkose: The wording of the FAQ indicates that installing third-party DVD software won't expose the codecs to Windows Media Player (as in past versions), meaning you would have to use a third-party player, but that's not the end of the world either.
Given how Media Fundation/Directshow works I don't really see how they would manage that (the codec not being supported by WMP) unless Windows 8 WMP doesn't support MF nor Directshow... but then again given what Ms is doing recently I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to rewrite WMP in Javascript or some similar crap. (It seems to be Ms new thing, every time they have something relatively good that works they trash it and replace it with HTML5 and JS)
Post edited May 06, 2012 by Gersen
Posted May 06, 2012
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Gersen: some similar crap. (It seems to be Ms new thing, every time they have something relatively good that works they trash it and replace it with HTML5 and JS)
+1111111111111111 for that. I really hope the final versions of the essential applications (like People, Mail, SkyDrive, Calendar) are done in XAML + C++ or C#, and not that ShitScript crap.
Posted May 06, 2012
I have 8 gigs of ram and always put my pc to sleep mode. My start-up is measured in seconds.
Why should I upgrade to this POS that can't even decide if it wants to be a tablet or desktop OS?
Tyvm, I'll pass
Posted May 25, 2012
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/no-cost-desktop-software-development-is-dead-on-windows-8/

Dreadful and terrible decision by Microsoft to developers :/. Windows 8 is going to be poo.
Post edited May 25, 2012 by nijuu
Posted May 25, 2012
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nijuu: Dreadful and terrible decision by Microsoft to developers :/. Windows 8 is going to be poo.
You know it's really bad when they pull desperate measures like that. This thing isn't even released yet and already it's like the Hindenburg.
Posted May 25, 2012
While I like the fact the Microsoft is actually trying to do something truly new and innovative with Win8 (my judgements will be reserved until I actually get a chance to use it though), the one thing which does bug me will be Win8's integration with Flash. Seriously?
Posted May 25, 2012
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nijuu: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/no-cost-desktop-software-development-is-dead-on-windows-8/

Dreadful and terrible decision by Microsoft to developers :/. Windows 8 is going to be poo.
LOL. No, it is not. Visual Studio 2010 works perfectly on Windows 8.

(Go ahead and call me fanboy, but these last two days, that story has been twisted to death for more website hits.)
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rampancy: While I like the fact the Microsoft is actually trying to do something truly new and innovative with Win8 (my judgements will be reserved until I actually get a chance to use it though), the one thing which does bug me will be Win8's integration with Flash. Seriously?
Adobe provided Microsoft with the actual source code for Flash, so they were able to tweak it to use the latest sandboxing security features of Windows 8. It is very possible that Microsoft will provide updates for Flash in the future, directly through Windows Update.
Post edited May 25, 2012 by Elenarie
Posted May 25, 2012
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nijuu: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/no-cost-desktop-software-development-is-dead-on-windows-8/

Dreadful and terrible decision by Microsoft to developers :/. Windows 8 is going to be poo.
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Elenarie: LOL. No, it is not. Visual Studio 2010 works perfectly on Windows 8.

(Go ahead and call me fanboy, but these last two days, that story has been twisted to death for more website hits.)
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rampancy: While I like the fact the Microsoft is actually trying to do something truly new and innovative with Win8 (my judgements will be reserved until I actually get a chance to use it though), the one thing which does bug me will be Win8's integration with Flash. Seriously?
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Elenarie: Adobe provided Microsoft with the actual source code for Flash, so they were able to tweak it to use the latest sandboxing security features of Windows 8. It is very possible that Microsoft will provide updates for Flash in the future, directly through Windows Update.
It really isn't the point of the article.
Posted May 25, 2012
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nijuu: It really isn't the point of the article.
I've read the article two times, dunno what other point the article tries to tell. That there will be less software developed for desktop?
Posted May 25, 2012
Win8 Another Screw up Brought to you by MicroSoft.(TM)
Posted May 25, 2012
Another reason why I'm moving away from windows. It looks like Windows 7 will be the last OS I'll be getting from Microsoft. Such a shame really that they are becoming an apple-wannabe. The more I hear about 8 the less I like it, but maybe things will improve. Just my two cents.

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I don't mind them borrowing some aspects of Apple, but what I don't like is them becoming control freaks. I saw Microsoft as being a medium between the openess of Linux and the closed-system of Apple. While you can't modify the OS you are still free to create whatever programs you want.

That article is not a good sign for things to come, IMO.
Post edited May 25, 2012 by Thunderstone
Posted May 25, 2012
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nijuu: It really isn't the point of the article.
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Elenarie: I've read the article two times, dunno what other point the article tries to tell. That there will be less software developed for desktop?
Man you really are a fanboi. Through rose tinted glasses. 'Nuff said LOL
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Thunderstone: Another reason why I'm moving away from windows. It looks like Windows 7 will be the last OS I'll be getting from Microsoft. Such a shame really that they are becoming an apple-wannabe. The more I hear about 8 the less I like it, but maybe things will improve. Just my two cents.

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I don't mind them borrowing some aspects of Apple, but what I don't like is them becoming control freaks. I saw Microsoft as being a medium between the openess of Linux and the closed-system of Apple. While you can't modify the OS you are still free to create whatever programs you want.

That article is not a good sign for things to come, IMO.
This is the impression im getting as well. Power has gone to Balmer's brain?.
Post edited May 25, 2012 by nijuu
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