This is the point exactly.... it wouldn't be the first time a service pack update has done more harm than good to a proportion of the people who've installed it. If your system is working fine you'd best wait and see what negative effects it may have. I remember when Service Pack 3 first came out for xp and it had a laundry list of problems, especially in making a lot of the games I enjoyed unstartable.

So let’s see you prove my point by dragging up the bad statistics after I point out they’re bad, and are proud of yourself for using them. I suppose ignoring that servers are sold without preinstalled operating systems and reality in general helps. Otherwise you'd not be proudly waving the IDC statistics and trying to ignore everything else, like someone who really should close their mouth before they publicly humiliate themselves.

You blow small issues you’ve had all out of proportion despite there being support for a while now and Windows actually having moved towards the Linux way rather then the reverse with Printer handling. All while clumsily trying to emphasize the influence of market politics in driver information ability, and you try to claim you’re “not ripping” on Linux.

Your waving of the Microsoft flag and backpedalling gets rather absurd. As does Linux "reliance on upstream" when that is the _only_ option with Windows and you can tell the devs to take a hike if you want to do the work.

I suppose demanding evidence that all ATMs don’t run Windows takes the cake though. A quick web search with wiki would show the largest bank in Brazil went from MS-DOS to Linux and thus never used Windows and if you were really involved in the community at all you’d have seen more then one account of people spotting the Linux kernel booting when the ATM is restarted after maintenance. But by all means make unqualified generalizations that are patently false, without even pretending to try to back it up, and then demand anyone challenging you provide evidence.

This isn't even getting into the fact major World Governments switching over to pure Linux ala Japan, China, Russia, and Europe because they're not interested in being beholden to Microsoft. That the industry is favoring Linux if for nothing else the simple reason that it's cheaper. And that these things have consequences regarding hardware vendors putting out.


You can look up what you want on running Crysis in Linux on your own. It's not like it's a radical concept that it runs or that the background OS and the file system is more efficient. Indeed you're the only one here denying that fact, and when pressed you really don't seem to have anything. Do note Mac users have to go through the same channels as Linux if they want to run anything that's not directly ported.

It's a fine antivrus/malware/spyware program.
I was weirded out by it just being there as well after formatting..thought there were laws passed recently against the same behavior for IE. Oh well.

Did you make sure to install all updates before installing java and other third party runtimes? I remember reinstalling xp and I installed the latest version of java befoe the major windows updates and it caused major stability issues (no bsod, just freezing every 15 minutes). I had to reinstall, do the updates first then install the runtimes and everything worked out fine.

I installed the service pack and it went flawlessly.

Taskbar or system tray icons location?

If its on the taskbar, are you sure you installed the correct MSE? There are some malicious programs going by similar name.
BSOD is not a problem with the OS, genius.
Same thing here, installed it on three system, including a VM, everything went well. I always have Automatic Updates on, its not like "M$" (as some Linux fanboys call them) are going to spy on me, track me, {add_some_idiotic_paranoid_crap_here} me.

Security Essentials essentials is not part of Service Pack 1, but under certain conditions it will be listed as a Recommended update; by default Recommended updates are delivered in the same way as Important updates so if you have Windows Update set to update automatically--or just clicked OK when checking the updates to install--it will be installed without further input from you.

Security Essentials is only offered if you have enabled checking for updates to Microsoft products and don't have your own antivirus software installed already. It is also initially listed as an Optional update rather than a Recommended one.

Yea, and since Windows Defender is already running on all (unless you disabled it / removed it) installations, think of MSE as an upgrade for Windows Defender.

I'll be glad if Microsoft slowly start introducing MSE features into Windows Defender. It will help improve the OS's security for sure.

Read the first post .

http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/how-faq-forums/unreviewed-how-faq/454535-opensuse-dual-booting-windows-7-loading-service-pack-1-windows-7-a.html

Then what is?
One of the basic principles of computer science is that if your program crashes, it's your own fault. So if Windows BSODs because of a poorly coded driver it's Window's fault for not being able to handle it in a sane manner. If it just lets whatever crap program do whatever the hell it wants and cause a blue screen, that's a horrific design.

My roommate had to format his Mint installation because he screw up the kernel or something when he installed a new interface.

By the way, read what you wrote, think about it. Hahhaha! :D

EDIT: If something goes wrong in Linux, the app didn't follow some rules. If something goes wrong in Windows, its the OS fault.

Whateverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...

Well, the service pack has screwed my laptop. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.

Can you please give more info... Maybe we can help somehow?

After hours and hours (like 7 or 8) of the "Configuring your updates" screen being stuck at 30%, I switched it off because I couldn't do anything else.

Since my last post I've managed to get it working again with windows startup repair doing a system restore but I think I'll leave the service pack for now.