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Posted October 24, 2009
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Anamon: Windows Vista came with all the drivers my notebook needed. Windows 7 lacked the WLAN chipset driver and the audio chipset driver. (Intel and Realtek respectively, hardly obscure components). Windows Vista allowed me to install all of my old XP drivers without problem. Windows Vista drivers for the WiFi and audio chipset could not be installed on Windows 7.

That’s weird... I have a notebook with Intel WLAN and Realtek audio, and the built in drivers worked out of the box. Also miles better than the vendor-provided ones on XP, but that's a side point.
Posted October 24, 2009
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Anamon: In my experience, however, they also took some steps backwards in other areas. Installing Windows Vista respected and preserved my GRUB multiboot environment (almost unheard of from a Microsoft OS). Windows 7 does not and monopolises the computer again (so it's again "unheard of"). Windows Vista came with all the drivers my notebook needed. Windows 7 lacked the WLAN chipset driver and the audio chipset driver. (Intel and Realtek respectively, hardly obscure components). Windows Vista allowed me to install all of my old XP drivers without problem. Windows Vista drivers for the WiFi and audio chipset could not be installed on Windows 7.
It sometimes also makes me wonder how they can keep such a huge piece of software in a more or less working and stable state, but miss such obvious and stupid bugs like Windows Explorer displaying wrong file-sizes or non-intuitively selecting files - mistakes that every beta tester should have encountered and reported after using the system for 30 minutes.

Install the drivers with Vista compatibility. ;)
Posted October 24, 2009
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Anamon: Installing Windows Vista respected and preserved my GRUB multiboot environment (almost unheard of from a Microsoft OS).

Really? Vista has never done that for me. It's always nuked GRUB for me. I have two hard drives, one with Linux, one with Windows. So when I install Windows I unplug my Linux hard drive so Windows won't nuke it.
Also, with Vista if you have Grub installed you can't install any service packs. So again, I would have to unplug my Linux drive, which I was always too lazy to do, so I never installed SP2.
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Cor: I have been running 7 pro RTM now for a little over a month, I guess.
I love it! it is very responsive, fast boot times and they have done some nice things with the file system (libraries) and the aero snap. I highly suggest it.

Since I'm a tech nazi, the File System would be NTFS and a Win7 Library is a directory structure.
Post edited October 24, 2009 by Kingoftherings
Posted October 24, 2009
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Cor: I have been running 7 pro RTM now for a little over a month, I guess.
I love it! it is very responsive, fast boot times and they have done some nice things with the file system (libraries) and the aero snap. I highly suggest it.
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Kingoftherings: Since I'm a tech nazi, the File System would be NTFS and a Win7 Library is a directory structure.

Your right, my bad. Hopefully I made myself understood anyway. :)
Posted October 24, 2009
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Kingoftherings: Win7 Library is a directory structure.

But it's really not... I'd call them a virtualised structure, since the libraries don't actually exist as folders, but as registry entries (I believe).
Posted October 24, 2009
Windows 7 parties : [url]http://mashable.com/2009/10/23/windows-7-whopper/[/url]
"I'm just glad it wasn't Windows 95"
That burger would be 5feet tall!!
Posted October 24, 2009
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Lone3wolf: Windows 7 parties : [url]http://mashable.com/2009/10/23/windows-7-whopper/[/url]
"I'm just glad it wasn't Windows 95"
That burger would be 5feet tall!!

I want one.
Posted October 24, 2009
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ethanpd: My only beef is that I can't get the classic start menu anymore (I'm really old skool!).
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Navagon: Same here! I've gutted it and reorganised the All Programs list. But I still haven't found a way to make that list the default. Meaning I have to click on it before anything at all is displayed. Still, that might become available with TweakUI or similar.

There are some remakes of the classic menu, which means you'll have to pin another think to your taskbar, there are no registry fixes or anything like that though, so that is probably your best bet.
Posted October 24, 2009
Has anyone found a fix for the All Programs bug? Apparently if you go over 70 it goes empty which has happened to me. There is an extremely slow fix where you manually move the files but I would prefer something for the lazy man.
Posted October 24, 2009
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Navagon: Same here! I've gutted it and reorganised the All Programs list. But I still haven't found a way to make that list the default. Meaning I have to click on it before anything at all is displayed. Still, that might become available with TweakUI or similar.
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VirtualPenguin: There are some remakes of the classic menu, which means you'll have to pin another think to your taskbar, there are no registry fixes or anything like that though, so that is probably your best bet.

I always reverted to classic menus, until now. Give it a fair shake, to see if you might just like it. For me, hitting the windows key once and just starting to type is much much better and easier than sorting and resorting the old classic menu.
Posted October 24, 2009
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VirtualPenguin: There are some remakes of the classic menu, which means you'll have to pin another think to your taskbar, there are no registry fixes or anything like that though, so that is probably your best bet.

I don't know if I want to go back to that anyway. This one would be a lot better if it simply had an option to default to All Programs.
Posted October 24, 2009
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BoxOfSnoo: That’s weird... I have a notebook with Intel WLAN and Realtek audio, and the built in drivers worked out of the box. Also miles better than the vendor-provided ones on XP, but that's a side point.

That IS weird... maybe it is because I had a different, incomplete release? I got my copy off MSDN Academic Alliance a couple of weeks before it hit the stores, but it wasn't a Beta or anything.
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Kingoftherings: Really? Vista has never done that for me. It's always nuked GRUB for me. I have two hard drives, one with Linux, one with Windows. So when I install Windows I unplug my Linux hard drive so Windows won't nuke it.
Also, with Vista if you have Grub installed you can't install any service packs. So again, I would have to unplug my Linux drive, which I was always too lazy to do, so I never installed SP2.

Hmm, I am certain that my Vista Business preserved GRUB when I installed it. I remember because I was so surprised myself :D my two systems are on the same harddrive though. I had Windows XP running on the primary partition and Ubuntu on a second one. During Vista installation I formatted the first partition and Vista installed there without messing with GRUB at all.
I cannot say anything about the Service Packs though, right up until I replaced it with Windows 7, I never installed any on my notebook! (It kept bugging me about it)
Posted October 24, 2009
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Lone3wolf: Windows 7 parties : [url]http://mashable.com/2009/10/23/windows-7-whopper/[/url]
"I'm just glad it wasn't Windows 95"
That burger would be 5feet tall!!

While I do not live in a participating region, I would like to eat at Burger King.
Posted October 25, 2009
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BoxOfSnoo: I always reverted to classic menus, until now. Give it a fair shake, to see if you might just like it. For me, hitting the windows key once and just starting to type is much much better and easier than sorting and resorting the old classic menu.

I don't use the classic fix, I'm comfortable enough with the new one, and there's a reason that Microsoft removed all signs of it, it's ineffective.
Posted October 25, 2009
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Lone3wolf: Windows 7 parties : [url]http://mashable.com/2009/10/23/windows-7-whopper/[/url]
"I'm just glad it wasn't Windows 95"
That burger would be 5feet tall!!
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michaelleung: While I do not live in a participating region, I would like to eat at Burger King.

For the love of science, WHY??? Throw the food away and eat the box : less salt, more vitamins and fibre, much less saturated fats (well, unless you let the food sit in it more than 5 minutes, anyway :P), and probably a lot more taste, too ;)
All round, much better for you.
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