http://gizmodo.com/5707600/wikileaks-releases-secret-list-of-critical-infrastructure-sites
Fuck WikiLeaks. This proves they are irresponsible assholes who will post any information they get their hands on. They aren't noble freedom fighters, fighting the good fight; they are a bunch of fucking lunatics.

Assange should be shot. "Should" is probably understating it; Assange "WILL" be shot. Hell, if I ran into the bastard, I would try to take him out, too.

EDIT: All right, I probably wouldn't stand a chance. And maybe that's a little too extreme...

Get him, Agent Bauer.

Agree with the first two sentences, somewhat with the third. Disagree completely with the second paragraph. I'm not about to go wishing for the subversion of the judicial system for anyone, and it's somewhat depressing that people do hope for the judicial system to be subverted.

This is fucking bullshit. He's essentially putting up a list saying TERRORISTS BOMB HERE. I wouldn't say he should get/will be shot, but I do hope he's fresh meat in prison.

Yeah, I got a little carried away there.

Fair enough. I know quite a bit about being caught up in the heat of the moment.

But releasing that list reinforces the idea in my mind that wikileaks is nowhere near the savior that it claims to be. Releasing that information is only negative; I don't see how anyone can claim that releasing it is good for either this country or the world. I'm all for more government accountability and transparency, but actions like this aren't where the government needs to be open.

Where's my lists of government officials being bribed by lobbyists? Other corruption in government? Backroom deals to screw us over? That's what we need.

They're supposed to be releasing some information from a major banking establishment in the near future, so there will probably be some very interesting information there. Interestingly, the anti-Wikileaks actions (their hosting being pulled, Paypal stopping donations to them, the political rhetoric really ramping up), all seemed to start right after this announcement. Not particularly surprising to me, but perhaps a good indication of where the real power and influence lies these days for those who haven't been paying attention.

I'd also consider the most interesting part of this whole affair the reactions to Wikileaks. The numerous calls from government officials for extra-judicial actions, pressure placed on private companies to hinder Wikileaks in any way they can, large scale propaganda and smear campaigns... next to what this says about how government is currently run the information Wikileaks has been putting out is positively dull.

See now thats good shit, Andrew Jackson shut down the centralized banking system of America because it was crap, all it did was throw people into debt by loaning out non existent money much like the banking system today. Hence why if you are truly knowledgeable of the fractional reserve banking system you can get away with not paying you mortgage and win in a court of law when the bank tries to foreclose on you. Of course it is a system that would take years to learn all the ins and outs.

Don't know if anyone posted this before.
Here's a neat interview with Daniel Ellsberg, on the Wikileaks topic:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-06-11/daniel-ellsberg-wikileaks-julian-assange-in-danger/

A very interesting read, and it comes from someone who had first hand knowledge of leaking secrets, and what comes with that.

The value in releasing that document is certainly quite debatable, although it should be noted that pretty much every location in that document could already be located by a simple Google search, and if any of those facilities actually get attacked as a result of the leak I'll eat my hat (well, I'll buy a hat, then eat it). There was also definitely a lot of added drama around the collateral murder video, although it should be noted that a key goal of Wikileaks is not to simply release information, but to make sure that information gets the attention they think it deserves, and making a big show of the releases and drumming up controversy works remarkably well towards that goal. Quite a few other sites, such as Cryptome, have been releasing leaked documents similar to what Wikileaks has released in the past, yet how many of these sites have you heard of? How many of their releases have gotten any coverage in the mainstream press? Unfortunate as it is, most people aren't willing to go out of their way to look up information that may go against their view of their society and government, regardless of how damning that information is. Yet throw in some drama and controversy and those same people can't get enough of it. I'd much prefer it if simply releasing documents with no editorializing or drama was sufficient- just the documents, just the facts. Yet it's hard to argue with the effectiveness of Wikileaks tactics in getting the public to take notice of what they're releasing.

Me either. Dunno if you saw it, but he was confronted about that on The Colbert Report (god bless that man), and he just said "we do whatever we have to to get the most attention." It's disgusting to me he's all high and mighty..what's the use if you're corrupt, too?

I understand that they feel that they need to get publicity but still... it's depressing that to get publicity they need to be incredibly biased. I guess that's life though. =\

I didn't watch it. Yeah, it would be nice if we could get someone without a political agenda. Unfortunately, that seems almost impossible. I definitely believe that those sites would have been found with a google search and doubt they will be a target of a terrorist attack, but if they would have been found... what's the purpose of releasing them? It's not exposing any corruption. I think most (reasonable [although that's a debatable term]) people will agree that there was no point in releasing that document.

It's a bit sad because I really want to appreciate what wikileaks is doing, but they are constantly doing things that I not only don't agree with, but think are absolutely detrimental to the world.

And Assange has just been arrested in the UK link

Nice.