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My PC is in similar league as yours (4GB DDR 2, Radeon HD 5770, Phenom 9850), but even when I bought that stuff all the companies had there newer models already on the market. The GPU was bought some time after the other stuff.

And yes, I remember Oblivion very well, I bought a new GPU a month before it´s release (GeForce 6600), but at that time I had only 2 GB DDR1, a AMD Athlon 64 Single Core and WinXP x64, but I never had any trouble with the performance of that game, I even had some graphic Mods running to improve the visuals a bit. The main reason for my upgrade on the Hardware was the fact that my old system couldn´t run BluRay Movies smoothly.

Also I don´t care much about the next XBox or Playstation, I sell my 360 soon and get a WiiU after it´s first price drop because at this point I see more potential in the WiiU when it comes to fun to play games, I alway´s had a feeling on the 360 that many developers cared too much about the visuals. Same Problem with a lot of games developed with PC in mind, Battlefield 3 was boring in the SP (I don´t play that much Online, and when I do I prefer games like the first UT), I had no fun at all with all Crytek developed games.
Don´t get me wrong, I like all thegraphical craze they put into Project C.A.R.S., but that game has substance, Crysis has only it´s visuals, underneath that it´s only a mediocre FPS with the Nanosouit as a gimmick.

I hate you, guys. All this talk of Wii makes me want to buy one of the retiring generation, a classic controller and have some Virtual Console fun. But I won't, because it still costs over $200 here, plus $30 for the controller and countless moneys on ROMs.

I saw some pictures comparing the 360 and Wii U versions Epic Mickey 2. The Wii U version actually manages to look worse than its counterpart.

The rumors just make it out to be quite the leap and I doubt our market is large enough for publishers to offer many scaling options. We shall see though, rumors can end up being way off and personally I think they would be idiots to jump so far ahead in tech specs.

Can't agree with that at all, it's one of my favorite shooters ever and ten times the game of most of other modern FPSes.

Back in the PS2 days, it usually had the best-looking and most stable versions of multiplatform games. Does that mean the PS2 is more powerful than the Xbox and Gamecube?

it did? i seem to remember the majority of ps2 games being on-par with it's xbox and gc counterparts at best. but then again, i'm a pc gamer so i'm basing it on splinter cell, nba street, re4, madden, and a handful of other games

One example I thought of was Resident Evil 4. The game looks noticeably better on the Gamecube version to me. http://youtu.be/5qz0LbKpZtI

No shit, play GTA San Andreas on PS2 and Xbox, obviously Xbox is better.

Apparently Arkham City is about on par with the xbox 360 version so it can't be that much of a crutch. I'm not at all interested in the Wii U personally but cpu isn't everything.

I don't know why everyone is getting hung-up over hardware specs. It's always been about the games anyways. This is the very reason why I still don't own a Playstation 3 today.

'Cause you need hardware to run the games?

Okay, I've spent some time watching multiplatform reviews of games that have came out for Wii u, 360 and SP3 and they all basically say that Wii U versions are pretty much the same games visually. Biggest difference is the controls, so clearly there's nothing else wrong with the Wii U CPU than that people still try to measure CPU efficiency by looking at Ghz count, as that's the simplest thing you can do, but doesn't necessarily paint you the right picture.

The different way is besides the point. The end result is apparently a console about as powerful as the consoles that came out 8 years ago. The same consoles that have been bottlenecking game development from Console -> PC for quite a while already. To see another Console come out at the same level 8 years later to give that another boost is not a good thing in my opinion.

I do agree that Gameplay -> Graphics. Sadly those seem to be rare, whether the PC/console is actually Graphic capable or not.