Posted January 01, 2013
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Elmofongo
It's 2L84U
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From United States
Posted January 01, 2013
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Starmaker
go Clarice!
Registered: Sep 2010
From Russian Federation
Posted January 01, 2013
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Years ago, the Russian government-owned TV channel held a much-publicized web poll, which resulted in all sorts of interesting factoids and observations, one of them being "it's harder to rig a web poll than elections". And here's the thing: people pissed off with the rigging of the official poll decided to hold their own. And that one was overwhelmingly won by trash rock musicians.
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Elmofongo
It's 2L84U
Registered: Sep 2011
From Puerto Rico
Posted January 01, 2013
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Years ago, the Russian government-owned TV channel held a much-publicized web poll, which resulted in all sorts of interesting factoids and observations, one of them being "it's harder to rig a web poll than elections". And here's the thing: people pissed off with the rigging of the official poll decided to hold their own. And that one was overwhelmingly won by trash rock musicians.
Even though he did made fun of white supremacists:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comics/critical-miss/9493-Journey
Also trash rock musicians?
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jefequeso
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Posted January 01, 2013
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People often complains on how unoriginal AAA games are but often Indies are not that much better, if you remove the gazillions of gimmicky puzzle platformers, tower defense, reverse tower defense, physic based puzzles, etc... there is not that many really original game left. And even among those, being original doesn't necessarily mean good. (And of course being unoriginal doesn't necessarily means bad either.)
However, you have to compare apples to apples. If you compare the best and most interesting of what AAA gaming has to offer with the best and most interesting of what indie gaming has to offer, I'll side with indie gaming most of the time. I simply find it more enjoyable and more fulfilling. It's a matter of taste. Some people prefer the highly refined entertainment that AAA gaming excels at, some people prefer the wild experimentation and forays into artsy territory that the indie market can cultivate. I certainly can appreciate, enjoy, and love AAA games. But if I had to side with either AAA or indie, I'd go indie.
How so?
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Starmaker
go Clarice!
Registered: Sep 2010
From Russian Federation
Posted January 01, 2013
You seriously have no reason to. It's an episodic comic, so it's absolutely possible to read it and enjoy some or even most of the individual comics while going "dafuq is wrong with you" when it's warranted.
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Niggles
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Registered: Apr 2009
From Australia
Posted January 01, 2013
Hahaha.
I can see why Greenlight is useful.Concept is good ... And yes problem is people seem to vote for the same bloody type of games all the time. SOME is nice. But a bit of variety... which is surprisingly lacking considering most greenlight stuff is indie right?.
Then you have the WarZ and Town fiasco's.....
I can see why Greenlight is useful.Concept is good ... And yes problem is people seem to vote for the same bloody type of games all the time. SOME is nice. But a bit of variety... which is surprisingly lacking considering most greenlight stuff is indie right?.
Then you have the WarZ and Town fiasco's.....
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Registered: Sep 2012
From Brazil
Posted January 01, 2013
The system is very flawed certainly. It's why we end up with games being greenlit when all they have is a nebulous release date that might never be reached, when games that are complete and ready to be delivered, like La Mulana, never see the light of day.
In that case it might partly be because they planned to charge U$15 for it, hence it needing more votes, which only shows another problem: not knowing how many votes a game will need, what's the criteria for that number and how many votes are left. Well that's strange. Because Wadjet Eye Games has The Blackwell Series, Emerald City Confidential, Resonance, Puzzle Bots and Gemini Rue on Steam and they were still forced to go through Greenlight to get Primordia there. Which is bullshit because there is a difference between letting us choose what will be published and evading your responsabilities, as this was a decision they should have made on their own.
In that case it might partly be because they planned to charge U$15 for it, hence it needing more votes, which only shows another problem: not knowing how many votes a game will need, what's the criteria for that number and how many votes are left. Well that's strange. Because Wadjet Eye Games has The Blackwell Series, Emerald City Confidential, Resonance, Puzzle Bots and Gemini Rue on Steam and they were still forced to go through Greenlight to get Primordia there. Which is bullshit because there is a difference between letting us choose what will be published and evading your responsabilities, as this was a decision they should have made on their own.
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From Australia
Posted January 01, 2013
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Unfortunately it's being curated by the kind of people who voted for The War Z.
My understanding is the game got a free pass around Greenlight due to the company having another game on Steam already. So the Greenlight crowd shouldn't be blamed for that turd getting up for sale.
Unfortunately it's being curated by the kind of people who voted for Postal 2.
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jefequeso
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Cormoran
Vigilant GOGer
Registered: May 2011
From Australia
Posted January 01, 2013
Ah, so now instead of a legitimate concern over the allowance of potentially shady business practices within the Steam platform they're just whingeing because it's a game they don't like.
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Khadgar42
Illegal Commando
Registered: Aug 2012
From Germany
Posted January 02, 2013
It's actually a quite smart move of Valve.
They are needing less manpower to evalute if a Indiegame is good or not.
So they can fire some Indie-Game-Testers-employees who were working there just to evaluate the potential profit margin an unknown indiegame is going to make.
Thus Steam is now earning even more coin and while looking goog to the public because more cosumer choice is "always" better than less consumer choice.
Well played, Steam, well played indeed.
They are needing less manpower to evalute if a Indiegame is good or not.
So they can fire some Indie-Game-Testers-employees who were working there just to evaluate the potential profit margin an unknown indiegame is going to make.
Thus Steam is now earning even more coin and while looking goog to the public because more cosumer choice is "always" better than less consumer choice.
Well played, Steam, well played indeed.
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hwgr
Registered: Apr 2011
From United States
Posted January 02, 2013
It does seem like much of the initial excitement for Greenlight has waned. I haven't checked Greenlight in quite awhile, other than voting here or there for games like Primordia.
For me it's a bit overwhelming to browse through all the projects. I tried searching and filtering early on, and that helped, but even then it's a lot of information to process.
For me it's a bit overwhelming to browse through all the projects. I tried searching and filtering early on, and that helped, but even then it's a lot of information to process.
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Elementalist
Registered: Jun 2009
From United States
Posted January 02, 2013
Would be nice if they had a randomize function or something to just flip through what they have blindly. I find greenlight something to look through once in a blue moon but otherwise ignore.
I lol'd at that comic especially with that slenderman game XD
I lol'd at that comic especially with that slenderman game XD