Unfortunately due to the massive discounts on sales in the past, customers are trained to expect those in every sale and thats why people are disappointed. Tha'ts why i find Steam sales so lack lustre this year (fun aspect missing aside). Last year they had a lot more games on better discounts (there were certainly more -75% on dailys and flash sales) - THAT'S what i find disappointing this time around. Competition has gotten better but valve hasn't risen to the occasion.
As far as Gog is concerned - its mostly older games (indies aside), so i am wondering if people are expecting games to go for free or a $1 or something?.Gog is still a business at the end of the day and has to find ways (for better or worse) to make money and at the same time keep the customer happy (who doesn't like having a good feeling from having found a good deal? ).Its a fine line.........And yes there were certain games i would have bought if it weren't for the fact the 75% only for whole bundle kinda turned me off. For me staggered discount the more games you bought type of model woulda worked better. And lets face it.Most of the games were 50% off to start with from start of the sales - you cant say that for Steam nor GG etc.

Okay. A lot of people seem to be confused when it comes to GOG bundles vs other bundles like on Steam.

So lets fix that.

Bundles on GOG are just some games thrown together and require you to buy them all to get the full discount.
Bundles on other sites are discounted.

A price of a GOG bundle is 75% off the full price of the games included. Looking at today's bundle, to buy all the games full price would be $65. 75% off of that and you get the sale price.

Whereas the price of a bundle on Steam has a special bundle price. Look at the Oddbox for example. To buy all the games full price in the Oddbox would be $20. The Oddbox costs $15, so they already give you a discount. Steam then takes an additional X% off of that price. GOG would have taken X% off the $20.
And Steam would have the individual games in the bundle also X% off. Of course, buy them individually means you pay more as you don't get the original bundle discount.

GOG is just making you buy multiple games at once to get 75% off. Other sites sell those games 75% off individually, but then offer a greater discount if you buy a bundle with all of them.


So can we avoid bullshit like

Because GOG is doing bundles completely different than other stores.

Edit: Here's a great example. http://store.steampowered.com/sub/17410 85% off the bundle, but the individual games are also 85% off.

You do have to consider though Steam games are generally priced at a much higher level already than their competitors (more realistic pricing especially for places like Australia *cough*), so it may 'seem' you are getting a really good deal, but the reality is Steam is sacrificing a small % in price in return for higher volume sales. Others have reported they jacked up prices of some games then discounted them. Anyway, i digress, you are right they are diffferent models. lol.

Maybe for Australia, but in the US the prices tend to be the same. Sometimes they are more expensive (Postal 2) sometimes they are cheaper (First two oddworld games) but usually equal. I was mainly looking at it from the US price points, so yeah, if you live somewhere else it may be a bit different.

And yet, usually it's more affordable to buy entire package than the same games bought separately, that are supposedly -85% as well.

You wanted GOG to do the same? what's the difference, you would have to buy entire package to get better price anyway.

Sometimes bundle/individual promos on steam are fair, but usually it's not that simple and buying even one game -85% off costs more than entire package. Illusionary choice.

You look on percentages only, instead of actual prices.

And that's how the bundles seem to work in most stores. I think it is quite rare that some store would let you cherry pick any games you want from a bundle, and still get all the same discounts as when buying the whole bundle. Sometimes that happens, also in GOG (there have been flat 75% discounts already also in this promo), but it is an exception to the rule.

But the point was that with GOG you don't even end up with those obsolete copies for games you have bought from GOG before, so there isn't even anything you'd have give away for free to total strangers. I easily find GOG's system most fair. Having a bunch of useless keys just for giving away isn't much of a consolation compared to not having to buy overlapping games at all.

It is indeed funny how differently people see these. I feel like shit afterwards when ending up buying same games several times from the likes of Steam, and that practically never happens in GOG. Obsolete keys to strangers, meh... It doesn't change the fact that I still had to buy a bunch of games I personally didn't want, if I wanted the full discount.

I just feel many people here are demanding something from GOG that practically no other digital store is doing either, and most are doing even worse with bundles.

75% off would mean half of GOG catalogue will be priced at $1.50. Maybe that's a great deal, but it should not be a common practice. At the moment, i don't think GOG can afford that extra-ordinary sales. However, The End of The World sales still had plenty of great deals. Maybe the OP missed it.

This, plus most of GOG games cost less than 5 bucks at this very moment...

Yup, Sting is right. There should be no argument. This is how real life works. Like those discount bundle on your supermarket or groceries.

GOG weren't entirely wrong when they mentioned frequent high discounts can devalue the games many months ago. Look no further than this very thread. It's a positive thing that there are rising competitors for Steam. It's almost like people beginning to take Steam as de facto standard for sales and bundle.

Just to be clear, I'm not really arguing that GOG should let us cherry pick the games we want from the bundles. My personal beef is they don't offer the same great discounts on individual games that you can get elsewhere. My only point with the bundles is the fact that when I remove games I don't want, the price jumps up (basically doubling) for the game(s) I do want but that doesn't make me say "Hey, it's still a good deal" - which is probably is - but it just makes me go "Meh, I'll pass'.

Fair enough. I obviously look at it differently.

I'm personally not demanding anything. GOG can do what they want with their pricing. I'm not such GOG fanboi that I'll cough up my hard-earned cash just because it's GOG that's offering a game. I'll buy where I feel the best deal is. All I'm pointing out is, as I mentioned at the beginning of this post, they don't seem to be competing with discounts on individual titles and rather seem to be focused more on bundling.

If I can get the individual game I want elsewhere at a good price I'll buy it there instead of buying a bundle from (at an overall higher price) that includes games I don't even want. And that's the key to my point with not being able to gift copies. As an example, let's assume there's a bundle of 6 games, only one of which I want. The bundle costs 12 bucks, but I can't give away the 5 games I don't want. I can get the game I do want elsewhere for 5 bucks. If I try to eliminate the games I don't want from the GOG bundle, the game I do want costs me 7 to 10 bucks. So, why would I spend either 7 to 10 bucks to get the single game I can get elsewhere for less or why would I spend 12 bucks and get 5 other games I don't want and can't give away? This has happened a few times, and that's the position I'm coming from, although I likely didn't really make that clear enough before.

I agree with the OP. I think it would be better if more 75% discounts were offered for single games instead of having to buy all the games in the bundle to get it.

I also agree that the discounts for classic games are already fair enough. I mean, most cost U$ 5,99, a 75% off would be too much, 50% discounts are already good enough. But the discounts for recent/indie games can certainly improve a lot.

Look at Legend of Grimrock for example, it's 75% off on Steam right now, and you don't have to buy anything else to get this discount, but if you wanted the same price on GOG you would have to buy a bundle with games that you probably don't want (please correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think there has ever been a 75% discount on Grimrock).

And please don't get me wrong, i'm not demanding anything from GOG, they are free to price the games the way they want. I'm just expressing my opinion on it.

I always like a tiered structure.

Buy one game, 50% off.
Buy two games, 60% off.
Buy three or more games, 70% off.

Good compromise, especially for people who want 2-3 games but not 5-6. I think this would actually help their sales.

GOG did that last year and it seemed from the amount of complaints that people hated it.

People on the internet complain about everything. If they don't like it, boo hoo, I'd like to see tiered discounts back.