Battle.net makes you have wet dreams! :p

Started using steam.. It's not so bad. At least we get in steam some kind of community. I caucht (is it a word) up in wings of prey. Also I have one dude that is from my country, so, it was good but it was really trough gog.
Anyway.. Lame that it wont give statistics about non-steam games.
Propably going to try that free rpg.. at some point. (forsaken world or something)
I love gog, because, perhaps this is the only forum which is helpfull, not an ass.. (hole)
And I've bought some games here that I did not even think that I would never play.
But, that's life.

-buy it when it stinks gog.. I mean old-

And I still say.. Witcher 2 was originally only reason that I even registered.
But I was blind and now I see.
I see fine people who also likes old and new games.

I used Steam. It turned me into a newt. I got better...

That really sucks, I'm sorry. I couldn't play Portal from Steam offline, either. I don't mind Steam much. Their downloader is very annoying and invasive, but I love how cheap their games can go in sales. I never buy full priced games, but I can't say no to some of those sales. :P

Love the "Red Dwarf" reference there, Ace. ;)

If you want to use the network libraries that valve has created you will need to use their DRM as well AFAIK. And programming a multiplayer component as rich as steams is not easy lol

I never jumped the Steam boat.

I think that from a customer's perspective, what annoys me about Steam is that they didn't decide whether they were gonna sell products or sell a service.

Like a service, you need constant access to their servers, but like products, you need to buy things in a piecemeal manner.

I think examples of a cleaner separation of the 2 are GOG and Netfix.

GOG sell products. You buy each game separately and once you bought it, it's yours. They provide a way to re-download it, but really, if you did a backup, you don't need their permission to play your game offline.

Netfix sells a service. You need internet access to their servers, but for a monthly fee, you have access to their entire movie collection which is a fair tradeoff.

From a customer's perspective, I think it would be better if Steam adopted one of the 2 models.

Steam = Fail since the first day, simply because i have to install the crapware luggage on my PC to play the damn games. I'm borderline to boycotting non-steam developed games that use the crap <_<

And as long as people go along with the illegal monopoly it's not going to get any better.

I broke my normal boycott of Steam with DNF and a really cheap copy of FO:NV, but in general I won't buy anything from them unless it's way discounted, and it pretty much has to cost me less than $5.

It's not just the rental aspect of the service it's the dickish moves and the habit they have of taking away entire accounts over a CC error that may or may not even be the customer's fault.

I obviously prefer GOG's model (who wouldn't?) but I don't mind Steam and it has never caused any problems for me. Also, if you're skipping games like Fallout: New Vegas or Valve's own titles just because they require Steam, you're shooting yourself in the foot IMO.

Oh, but I *DO* store the login information. It's just the steam client who happens to forget them from time to time, for no obvious reasons.

I do not buy ANY DRM games it is as simple as that. Why should i shoot myself into the foot ? Most new games are poor anyway and have a boring gameplay. Since they introduced multiplattforming and even worse DRM i almost bought no more new games.

Look, I generally prefer older games as well and a lot of new releases these days seem rushed, uninspired or too heavily influenced by their publishers (ie. the guys with the money), and some definitely suffer from multi-platforming. But it's not like they stopped making good games altogether... There are definitely some really awesome titles out there with great gameplay, story-telling, immersion, and so on.

DRM is a means to an end, and it's not always pretty, but it's flat-out impossible for DRM to turn a brilliant game into a bad one -- bad games are made by bad design decisions and rushed development, not by DRM's. So yes, it's my opinion that, if you're not buying/playing certain titles because they have DRM, you're not doing yourself any favors -- you're only denying yourself an awesome gaming experience.

As soon as a game has DRM i do not buy and i stay with that no matter what.
DRM is a scam of the highest order and i also did not buy starcraft 2 because of DRM. Certainly a game i was interested in but no need ty.

I get it. You have your opinion and I have mine, let's just leave it at that.