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I am watching the GOP debate on CNN and they are discussing gay marriage. I come from a conservative background but am personally more libertarian/a little right of center. The only conservatives I vote for are fiscal state sovereignty centered (ie. not Bush) who will let people live as they vote. While there are three who say "leave it to the state" most say they would change the constitution to ban a lifestyle. WHAT? I often defend the reasonable religious and conservative types but these guys are setting me back a few decades.

The funny thing is that the 3 decent sounding GOPs I'm looking at are black, female, and Ron Paul.

I'm sure this thread will make me look like an ass in the end (pun) but am I the only one who is disappointed? Preemptive strike: GOP's are religious bigots, thanks for contributing. Tea baggers are racists, uh huh. Cling to your guns and religion, thank you, come back soon.
Post edited June 13, 2011 by Tulivu
all politicians are lawyers, nuff said.
WTF is gop?
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Antimateria: WTF is gop?
Grand Old Party, A nickname for the Republican party in US politics.
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Tulivu: I am watching the GOP debate on CNN and they are discussing gay marriage. I come from a conservative background but am personally more libertarian/a little right of center. The only conservatives I vote for are fiscal state sovereignty centered (ie. not Bush) who will let people live as they vote. While there are three who say "leave it to the state" most say they would change the constitution to ban a lifestyle. WHAT? I often defend the reasonable religious and conservative types but these guys are setting me back a few decades.

The funny thing is that the 3 decent sounding GOPs I'm looking at are black, female, and Ron Paul.

I'm sure this thread will make me look like an ass in the end (pun) but am I the only one who is disappointed? Preemptive strike: GOP's are religious bigots, thanks for contributing. Tea baggers are racists, uh huh. Cling to your guns and religion, thank you, come back soon.
No worries.. i made questionable comment in thread but.. most sivilized countries have freedom of speech. Although. If I say one word, i'm propably screwed.
I'm heterosexual but other people's lifestyles are no one else's business.

Don't cry for me when I'm dead for I will have rid myself of Shit Hole Earth.

"Shit Hole Earth" - should be a new Disney / Epcot ride.
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Antimateria: WTF is gop?
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cogadh: Grand Old Party, A nickname for the Republican party in US politics.
..hmm.. Fucking politics.

Those have nothing common with normal people. They hardly know which pocket has anything but hot air.
Post edited June 13, 2011 by Antimateria
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Tulivu: I am watching the GOP debate on CNN and they are discussing gay marriage. I come from a conservative background but am personally more libertarian/a little right of center. The only conservatives I vote for are fiscal state sovereignty centered (ie. not Bush) who will let people live as they vote. While there are three who say "leave it to the state" most say they would change the constitution to ban a lifestyle. WHAT? I often defend the reasonable religious and conservative types but these guys are setting me back a few decades.

The funny thing is that the 3 decent sounding GOPs I'm looking at are black, female, and Ron Paul.

I'm sure this thread will make me look like an ass in the end (pun) but am I the only one who is disappointed? Preemptive strike: GOP's are religious bigots, thanks for contributing. Tea baggers are racists, uh huh. Cling to your guns and religion, thank you, come back soon.
Given the fractured state of the Republican party, did you really expect anything else? We are talking about a party that has basically lost its direction over the last few years and is allowing the extremist viewpoints to dictate where it should go. That's not to say the other parties aren't also guilty of this, but the Republicans have practically made a spectator sport out of it.
Post edited June 13, 2011 by cogadh
The woman (I haven't been keeping up with politics, if you couldn't tell) has fumbled a couple questions but Ron is still solid.
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Tulivu: I am watching the GOP debate on CNN and they are discussing gay marriage. I come from a conservative background but am personally more libertarian/a little right of center. The only conservatives I vote for are fiscal state sovereignty centered (ie. not Bush) who will let people live as they vote. While there are three who say "leave it to the state" most say they would change the constitution to ban a lifestyle. WHAT? I often defend the reasonable religious and conservative types but these guys are setting me back a few decades.

The funny thing is that the 3 decent sounding GOPs I'm looking at are black, female, and Ron Paul.

I'm sure this thread will make me look like an ass in the end (pun) but am I the only one who is disappointed? Preemptive strike: GOP's are religious bigots, thanks for contributing. Tea baggers are racists, uh huh. Cling to your guns and religion, thank you, come back soon.
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cogadh: Given the fractured state of the Republican party, did you really expect anything else? We are talking about a party that has basically lost its direction over the last few years and is allowing the extremist viewpoints to dictate where it should go. That's not to say the other parties aren't also guilty of this, but the Republicans have practically made a spectator sport out of it.
If you are watching politics.. Now we finnishpeople are basicly nazis. When so many voted "perussuomalaisia".
goddammit.. we have own poor souls so why sende milliards in a country which never pays back.
Good will and all but it would be wise to listen people. Taxes, more taxes. This is it. They could have remembered which country is this. We have our own peoblems.
I hate war and i'm too old for that shit. But even when I had gone to schools. It was this country which supposed to be independent. With EU, well.. fucking right on.
Post edited June 13, 2011 by Antimateria
Good country and it's good that i don't live in middle-east. But it seems that people, who elect those people.. No effect. i'm not a rasist or anything. but first.. own problems and then if we have resources then other countries.
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Antimateria: Good country and it's good that i don't live in middle-east. But it seems that people, who elect those people.. No effect. i'm not a rasist or anything. but first.. own problems and then if we have resources then other countries.
That should at least be true of the current GOP lineup. Take care our home right now. We have an international community for policing.
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Antimateria: WTF is gop?
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cogadh: Grand Old Party, A nickname for the Republican party in US politics.
The more popular nickname is "Grinches on Parade", though it's considered tired and cliche. Saying it will make both the left and right moan and facepalm.

Stay the fuck away from politics. There are a lot of older people who take sides in politics, in case you haven't noticed. Involving yourself in politics is a waste of time and a waste of life, and you can keep wasting both until the end of your days, for so very little.


Left, right, 3rd parties, I'd argue it's all there to keep us at odds with each other. I'd say it's working, too. Some wealthy dick far removed from reality is always in charge, and everyone but a select few of the representing party usually isn't too pleased. My friend voted for Obama, I voted for nobody. I don't give a shit about McCain, nor Obama, and I'm very sure they don't even know I exist, though I'd say that's a very good thing.

He regrets voting for Obama, even though he'd never have voted for McCain. In the end, it hardly matters as we get the best of both worlds anyway, seeing as he's senator and all...
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cogadh: Grand Old Party, A nickname for the Republican party in US politics.
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LordKuruku: The more popular nickname is "Grinches on Parade", though it's considered tired and cliche. Saying it will make both the left and right moan and facepalm.

Stay the fuck away from politics. There are a lot of older people who take sides in politics, in case you haven't noticed. Involving yourself in politics is a waste of time and a waste of life, and you can keep wasting both until the end of your days, for so very little.


Left, right, 3rd parties, I'd argue it's all there to keep us at odds with each other. I'd say it's working, too. Some wealthy dick far removed from reality is always in charge, and everyone but a select few of the representing party usually isn't too pleased. My friend voted for Obama, I voted for nobody. I don't give a shit about McCain, nor Obama, and I'm very sure they don't even know I exist, though I'd say that's a very good thing.

He regrets voting for Obama, even though he'd never have voted for McCain. In the end, it hardly matters as we get the best of both worlds anyway, seeing as he's senator and all...
Honestly, an attitude like that is exactly why it's always some "wealthy dick far removed from reality" who gets elected. They count on voter apathy like that because otherwise, they know they'd never get elected.
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cogadh: Honestly, an attitude like that is exactly why it's always some "wealthy dick far removed from reality" who gets elected. They count on voter apathy like that because otherwise, they know they'd never get elected.
It's not simply mere apathy. Who would I have voted for?