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I think GOG's doing it's best with the bundles. I imagine they sell decently. It's certainly not for everyone though.

The biggest complaint about these types of sales so far would be the blowout sale, where they for some reason seem to have a day where practically every bundle they are going to have on sale, is already being put on sale for one day, and then the rest turn out to be repeat after repeat. Maybe they're doing it to beat out the Steam Summer sale or something but it really kills the Sales hype in my opinion.

GOG of course are the only ones with the statistics behind it. Perhaps it's working really well for them, but looking at it from here it baffles me to be honest.

That said, when I said the bundles aren't for everyone, that includes me. My wishlist isn't that big anymore, and even if it were big enough to encompass the bulk of a bundle, there's a good chance there'd be games in there I'm simply not after.

So for me, bundles are almost always a pass. That in turn means the Xmas and Summer sales are basically only 50% off sales. Now this is in no way a bad sale, especially if it had been just that. But it's not. There's 75% sale as well, but because Bundles aren't for me, It makes me feel like I'm excluded from it, and I'm missing a bigger percentage I could have gotten. And that in turn makes me not want to spend my money on the 50%. Not necessarily because it's a bad deal, but because I feel like I'm missing out on something better.

On top of that, I know that if I wait for a Gem promo the same games that are currently only 50% will most likely be 60% off. Which reinforces the thought that 50% off is a 'bad' deal, even if it's not.

I'm not saying that thinking this way is reasonable/rational, it most likely is not. But I wouldn't be surprised if there are many that think/feel this way.
Post edited June 23, 2013 by Pheace
Personally I don't mind the bundles being the way they are now. I've purchased one bundle because I wanted one game in it while the other games were something I was interested in but had no intention of buying at this time. Another game, I just bought alone at the 50% off rate rather than the bundle. It's a choice they give and I think it's fair and for the most part the bundled games make sense together. Now I love a good deal as much as anyone, but really the sale here and elsewhere (along with other bundles) has resulted in me having way more games to play than I ever would have bought in the past.

If you don't feel your getting your moneys worth then you should buy elsewhere. If no DRM is more important than a few dollars (and in the case of most GOG games, the difference between 50% and 75% is only a few dollars) then buy the game here.
Damn, that was one helluva rant, LOL

I would be happy with a Mix & Match Bundle on the last day. Any 10 games you want for 85% off. That would be totally awesome.
I thought my post deserved a bigger laugh but I guess I was wrong. :P
you get fair amount of discount even on single games from each bundle, all the sales on steam and gog taught people to purchase games only in sales and here we have people waiting year just to save few dollars on a game, because 75% discount is normal while 50% is not enough and games with no discount are just as a notice they should be wishlisted, I don't agree with such customer behaviour when it comes to single titles

but i agree that series should not mix - like the bundle with Thief (yummy) and Deus Ex (meh) together... I wouldnt mind about paying for Thief franchise, but don't try to trick me into buying anything with Deus Ex in title in the same bundle.. just because the game has same publisher or whatever doesn't mean people are interested in all their releases

currently I'm waiting for Fallout bundle but if the GoG is going to mix it with some four other indie RPGs as a "post apo bundle" I'm not going to bother and pick it on steam later
Post edited June 23, 2013 by grecza
Developpers should just stop selling games. They should just give it. We wouldn't have problem with prices.

I really am in a shitty mood, sorry for that.
Gog has to remember it's got competition now, having fewer and fewer exclusives as time passes. I can get a game at 50% off for $5 on GOG, or I can wait (and i CAN wait, as I have a huge backlog, as do most people here) for a 75% off on Steam. It gets even worse considering the dollar is on the rise and Steam has fixed it's prices for my currency, plus I don't have taxes to send the money outside the country.

And then there are indie bundles... You get the idea.

Of course, I can't blame GOG for all those problems. No regional pricing is, after all, one of their flags, and sometimes the situation being unfavorable to one country or another is a risk they've accepted. Still, they could be a little more competitive, and the bundle department would be a good start.
For fark sake, im sure others will respond in similar fashion, but why on earth are you comparing GOG sale bundles to indie bundles being flogged to death for price of a coffee???????...
GOG is NOT a indie bundle supplier. Its a business.Pure and simple. They are here to sell a product, we purchase. Simple. They aren't here to take up indie bundle practices. Its not right and its not fair to compare especially when the games GOG sells mostly are old classic games.Not indie games. Sorry if i knee jerked but im sick of people who come on here and expect bargain basement prices for old classic games and expect same thing with indie games gog sells.
Post edited June 23, 2013 by nijuu
If I went to a bookstore and they said "You can have these two books for twenty dollars, but we also have a deal where you can get those two books plus two others for only fifteen bucks", I don't imagine I'd say "Oh, sorry, I already have those extras." I'd take them all for the lesser price and give the others away.
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DieRuhe: If I went to a bookstore and they said "You can have these two books for twenty dollars, but we also have a deal where you can get those two books plus two others for only fifteen bucks", I don't imagine I'd say "Oh, sorry, I already have those extras." I'd take them all for the lesser price and give the others away.
Or trade them out, either choice is a simple and logic answer.
You have some good points with bundling and such but your whole perspective falls apart upon asking GOG (or any company for that matter) to trust the consumer. The consumer has proven time and time and time again they can't be trusted in any way to do the right thing. Sure, a small percentage will but the great majority will not and companies will lose lots of money making decisions based on trusting the consumer.

There was one game from yesterdays sale that I really really wanted. I had 2 of the games on GOG and 2 on Steam. This one I didn't have and another I didn't have or want. I'd have been severely tempted to mark that last game as owned so I could get the bundle price on the one I wanted.
When you put a system in place that makes honest people consider cheating the system, its wrong and can't be a solution. Because the non-honest people are sure as hell not gonna have a 2nd thought of exploiting it.

There have been some good ideas put forth in other posts and other threads to come up with a solution for the huge bundle discounts but I can't in good consciousness endorse the ideas in this thread. Sorry.
My point is not to complain. However, GOG is in a war for market share right now, and they're the underdog. I want them to succeed, but feel like their current business decisions will hurt them in the long run. From the sales numbers alone, I'm sure they'll see profits increase because GOG has become much more popular lately. However, I want them to realize where they are losing business and could improve before it's too late. I want GOG to succeed and make money, but they at least need to be match the sales of other sites.

GOG sales are actually mathematically worse then their competitor's. It's not true that GOG offers better deals than elsewhere if you buy the bundle. Instead, the bundle discount matches the normal daily deals of other sites. The normal discount is worse than other sites. So you have to buy the whole bundle just to match the sale price elsewhere. This is simply not competitive. For example, Deponia 2 was on sale for 75% off on Steam and GamersGate two weeks ago. However, you can only get it for the same discount on GOG if you buy the whole bundle. It's made even worse if you already have all the other games in the bundle, just not on GOG. I actually want to buy all my games from GOG, but if I have to pay twice as much as elsewhere, I (and others) simply won't.

Also, like Pheace said, there is psychological proof that people feel like they are missing out on something and will be less likely to buy if they see others getting a better price. I thought Penny Arcade's Extra Credits did a good job of explaining it in their JC Penny's Effect talk (Season 6, Episode 10).

I'm not asking GOG to have indie bundle pricing. But if they want to succeed in this cut-throat business, as I want them to, their sales need to at least match their competitor's.
Post edited June 23, 2013 by Arbo500
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tinyE: I thought my post deserved a bigger laugh but I guess I was wrong. :P
Dammit, I laughed, but I just got to the thread a little too late :D
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Arbo500: My point is not to complain. However, GOG is in a war for market share right now, and they're the underdog. I want them to succeed, but feel like their current business decisions will hurt them in the long run. From the sales numbers alone, I'm sure they'll see profits increase because GOG has become much more popular lately. However, I want them to realize where they are losing business and could improve before it's too late. I want GOG to succeed and make money, but they at least need to be match the sales of other sites.

GOG sales are actually mathematically worse then their competitor's. It's not true that GOG offers better deals than elsewhere if you buy the bundle. Instead, the bundle discount matches the normal daily deals of other sites. The normal discount is worse than other sites. So you have to buy the whole bundle just to match the sale price elsewhere. This is simply not competitive. For example, Deponia 2 was on sale for 75% off on Steam and GamersGate two weeks ago. However, you can only get it for the same discount on GOG if you buy the whole bundle.

Also, like Pheace said, there is psychological proof that people feel like they are missing out on something and will be less likely to buy if they see others getting a better price. I thought Penny Arcade's Extra Credits did a good job of explaining it in their JC Penny's Effect talk (Season 6, Episode 10).

I'm not asking GOG to have indie bundle pricing. But if they want to succeed in this cut-throat business, as I want them to, their sales need to at least match their competitor's.
Are you talking old classics? Or indies ?. There's no real price comparison for the old games as simply put, most of them are not available on other digital stores (if they have them, they are sans goodies gog provides). Indie games seem more relevant to what this thread is talking about. if that is the case, yes indie games being sold here could be cheaper.
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Psyringe: You're trying something like going to a supermarket and saying "Hey, you got that great discount for 5 bars of chocolate. I already bought two bars of the same chocolate at a different shop, can I still get the same discount when I just buy 3?" Feel free to try that in your local supermarket and tell us the results. ;)
Could not have said it better myself.

FWIW, I haven't taken advantage of any of the bundled prices simply because I haven't wanted any of the complete packages. And I'll be damned if I'm going to gripe about "only" 50% off of the DRM-free titles. They have titles like Alpha Centauri for a measly 3 bucks and there's still a bitch to be found?!?

But maybe that's just me, coming from a time when you either paid your 40 bucks for the title or you simply didn't play the game.
their sales need to at least match their competitor's.
No, they don't. To succeed, there should be some differentiation, some way to stand out. DRM-free is a big friggin' deal, and that's how they stand out. Many of us will pay an extra 50 cents or whatever for that benefit. And for some, being not-Steam is another benefit.
Post edited June 23, 2013 by HereForTheBeer