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monkeydelarge: I also find it annoying that people won't take my word it.
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granny: 1) Why should they? Just like why should they take my word for anything I say, or QC's word for anything they say?

2) You are making a statement that people are cheap. Generally speaking, I tend to agree, but that's because people dislike paying any more than they have to (always have, always will). But you are still stating it basically as fact, but won't give even one example. All the effort you have expended complaining about the 'trolls' could so easily have been channelled into a bit of copy-pasta goodness.

But instead? "I don't feel like writing a post about every single item, I've sold and is currently up for sale".
I find it ridiculous that I have to prove that I'm telling the truth when all I'm saying is people are insanely cheap nowadays and I'm a competent seller. It's not like, I'm telling everyone here, I saw space aliens and the bastards are insanely cheap and then I saved the world from them by hacking into their alien computers! :)


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monkeydelarge: I don't see how "I just don't trust people who lash out at everything like a scared, cornered animal. It is uncivilized, in my opinion."
is quoting my original post?
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MobiusArcher: The "It is uncivilized, in my opinion." was the quote. I was of course doing the same thing by saying it. It was was very hypocritical of me. I really suck at troll fights.
What troll fights?
Post edited September 01, 2013 by monkeydelarge
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monkeydelarge: What troll fights?
We are both being trolls by a more broad definition of the term, and we are duking it out. Your winning of course. I mean the battle itself, not what one of us is more of a troll or anything.
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monkeydelarge: Do I have a reputation of being someone who is full of shit?
Well you brought it up, and since no one is giving you a direct honest answer... Yes. Up to the brink. If not already before this topic pretty much settles it.
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monkeydelarge: I love you. Finally, someone who sees things my way. When did every setting have to be a girl's tea party?
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Crosmando: Well, I've been on quite a few forums over the years, and literally every one of them has the same regime, extremely tight-ass moderators who will lock a thread if it gets "too heated" (ie people actually debating a topic) or outright ban someone for expressing themselves. Seems like everybody (well, mostly everybody) on the net is an overly sensitive little girl.

I sentence everyone on the internet to solitary confinement on 4chan's most offensive boards, once you reach lvl 10 in thick skin, enough to withstand the attacks of even the strongest troll, you may venture forth into the rest of the internets.
I just think people should communicate their thoughts no matter how abrasive or whatever. It is as simple as that. And when people choose to be "polite", instead of communicating or whatever then I see them as two faced savages. What is more civilized? People who are efficient at communicating or people who hide themselves? Think about it... Unfortunately I live in a country where most of the people believe in the opposite of what I believe in... A country full of two faced people who will tell you to "have a nice day" while smiling when they are thinking, how awesome it would be to see you get hit by a truck. :) A country where you can never tell who is friend and who is foe so you constantly have to watch your back.
Post edited September 01, 2013 by monkeydelarge
1) People want a deal. Myself, I never buy ANYTHING for more than 10-20% over what a pawn shop would pay.

2) Tighter times means less money for non-essentials. Abundance leads to irresponsible or discretionary spending, shortage leads to an economics lesson.

3) In any kind of private sale, you have to mark everything up 15% or so, to give the buyer the perception of having gotten a deal.

Any why should anyone pay the absolute lowest you are willing to sell for? If you don't need the money bad enough to take the offers being made, keep waiting for the proper offer, or start advertising.
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monkeydelarge: I just think people should communicate their thoughts no matter how abrasive or whatever. It is as simple as that. And when people choose to be "polite", instead of communicating or whatever then I see them as two faced savages. What is more civilized? People who are efficient at communicating or people who hide themselves? Think about it... Unfortunately I live in a country where most of the people believe in the opposite of what I believe in... A country full of two faced people who will tell you to "have a nice day" while smiling when they are thinking, how awesome it would be to see you get hit by a truck. :)
Well that's a whole different debate right there. The point you were trying to make never got made because of how efficient your communication is.

I don't like you. You don't like me. I'm okay with that. If your okay with that too, then I think its time we just part ways.
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anjohl: 1) People want a deal. Myself, I never buy ANYTHING for more than 10-20% over what a pawn shop would pay.

2) Tighter times means less money for non-essentials. Abundance leads to irresponsible or discretionary spending, shortage leads to an economics lesson.

3) In any kind of private sale, you have to mark everything up 15% or so, to give the buyer the perception of having gotten a deal.

Any why should anyone pay the absolute lowest you are willing to sell for? If you don't need the money bad enough to take the offers being made, keep waiting for the proper offer, or start advertising.
Insanely cheap people want more than a good deal... When someone asks you to compensate him or her for the gas he or she will have to spend in order to buy the item that already has a bargain price, they want more than a good deal.
Post edited September 01, 2013 by monkeydelarge
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monkeydelarge: I'm not against haggling. I'm against people who are insanely cheap. When an item is overpriced or fair priced, then of course, people should haggle. BUT NOT WHEN SOMETHING IS 80% OFF. People shouldn't expect shit for almost free. This kind of entitlement is destroying the world. Imagine, Steam is selling a good game for 80% off. What kind of person would I be, if I contacted Steam and asked for 90% off instead?
80% off of what? Original retail price? If so, irrelevant. 80% off your perceived value of the item? Again, irrelevant. 80% off the market trend on the item? Odd.
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anjohl: 1) People want a deal. Myself, I never buy ANYTHING for more than 10-20% over what a pawn shop would pay.

2) Tighter times means less money for non-essentials. Abundance leads to irresponsible or discretionary spending, shortage leads to an economics lesson.

3) In any kind of private sale, you have to mark everything up 15% or so, to give the buyer the perception of having gotten a deal.

Any why should anyone pay the absolute lowest you are willing to sell for? If you don't need the money bad enough to take the offers being made, keep waiting for the proper offer, or start advertising.
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monkeydelarge: Insanely cheap people want more than a deal...
Agreed. I am about as cheap as they come, and do you know what that has done? it has transformed me from a wasteful consumer to a responsible, observant, and fanatical appreciator of money. I used to disrespect my money, giving it to people who hadn't earned it, for stuff I didn't want, let alone need. Now I don't disrespect money. Now I love it. I love my money, but I love YOUR money even more.

Insanely cheap people want more than a deal for sure, they want a deal AND a nice margin.
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monkeydelarge: I'm not against haggling. I'm against people who are insanely cheap. When an item is overpriced or fair priced, then of course, people should haggle. BUT NOT WHEN SOMETHING IS 80% OFF. People shouldn't expect shit for almost free. This kind of entitlement is destroying the world. Imagine, Steam is selling a good game for 80% off. What kind of person would I be, if I contacted Steam and asked for 90% off instead?
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anjohl: 80% off of what? Original retail price? If so, irrelevant. 80% off your perceived value of the item? Again, irrelevant. 80% off the market trend on the item? Odd.
No, not 80% off retail price. Retail price = overpriced. Why are you jumping to the conclusion, that I can't figure out the real value of an item?
Post edited September 01, 2013 by monkeydelarge
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monkeydelarge: I've been trying to raise money by selling things lately. These things are either very useful or desired by many people. I'm not selling junk.
I have some non-junk I've been trying to sell on craigslist for months. Turns out it might just be junk to most folks who see it.
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monkeydelarge: I've been trying to raise money by selling things lately. These things are either very useful or desired by many people. I'm not selling junk.
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fartheststar: I have some non-junk I've been trying to sell on craigslist for months. Turns out it might just be junk to most folks who see it.
I'm not you. When I say I'm not selling junk, it means nobody sees my items as junk. I'm not selling baseball cards or something like that or something only a fan would be interested in..
Post edited September 01, 2013 by monkeydelarge
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misteryo: 1. Times are hard.
2. I don't know what you're selling. Maybe I would act the same way.
3. People have always been cheap and looking for a deal. You're a member of the cheapest gaming site on the planet in a forum that has frequent free giveaways to boot.
4. Goog luck selling your stuff. Selling stuff is hard. I hope you get what you're hoping for.
+1 This is pretty much it.. especially 1.
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misteryo: 1. Times are hard.
2. I don't know what you're selling. Maybe I would act the same way.
3. People have always been cheap and looking for a deal. You're a member of the cheapest gaming site on the planet in a forum that has frequent free giveaways to boot.
4. Goog luck selling your stuff. Selling stuff is hard. I hope you get what you're hoping for.
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nijuu: +1 This is pretty much it.. especially 1.
Yeah because you assume, I'm one of those people who sells junk that he thinks is gold for high prices, then gets butt hurt, because nobody wants to buy them for those high prices. I find your lack of faith, disturbing.
Post edited September 01, 2013 by monkeydelarge
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fartheststar: I have some non-junk I've been trying to sell on craigslist for months. Turns out it might just be junk to most folks who see it.
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monkeydelarge: I'm not you. When I say I'm not selling junk, it means nobody sees my items as junk. I'm not selling baseball cards or something like that or something only a fan would be interested in..
I'm selling PA system. It has uses. Non-junk. No calls and was listed for over 3 months.
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monkeydelarge: No, not 80% off retail price. Retail price = overpriced. Why are you jumping to the conclusion, that I can't figure out the real value of an item?
I suspect it's because (and I can't believe this needs restating) you have given no examples. Again, you have spent so much time and effort over the last hour arguing with people, when you could have said something like:
"Right, I had an original G1 Fortress Maximus in perfect condition. Most of them go on ebay for about $3000, so I put mine up at $2000. No one bit, so I dropped it to $1000. A few people contacted me. Some wanted another $500 off, some wanted $500 off and gas money to come and get it."

That took me about three minutes to make up and write.

But I guess what you're doing is so much easier...