Posted January 25, 2013

Hesusio
Blithering Idiot
Registered: Sep 2010
From Australia

P1na
Wandering fruit
Registered: Apr 2012
From Spain
Posted January 25, 2013

But more to the topic, it's a real pity that there's no more multilanguage support, specially when the original voice acting is one I understand (i.e. Spanish in Commandos: BEL)

Then again, my worst experience was in the UK. My first time there, I went to a pub and ordered a beer:
"One beer, please"
"What?"
"One beer"
"What?"
"(raising one finger) ONE (pointing at the tap) BEER"
"Ah, one beer" (With a slightly longer ee)
Ok, I can pronounce it as bad as you want, but I'm on a pub right in front of the tap. What can I possibly be asking for? A bee? A bear? A coffee? And don't try to convince me that you live in London and aren't used to foreign pronunciation, speacially if you are the barman of a pub right below a youth hostel!

timppu
Favorite race: Formula__One
Registered: Jun 2011
From Finland
Posted January 25, 2013
Kaikki on hyvin niin kauan kunnes joku älyää vaatia monikielistä GOG-foorumia.
(käyttäkää google-kääntäjää, nartut!)
(käyttäkää google-kääntäjää, nartut!)

Leroux
Major Blockhead
Registered: Apr 2010
From Germany
Posted January 25, 2013
Wow, I hadn't noticed that yet, thanks!

mystral
User
Registered: Sep 2008
From Christmas Island
Posted January 25, 2013

Personally, almost every younger French person I've met spoke English decently.
Of course, if you try to speak English to people 50 year old and older, who went to school before English was required and at a time when German was actually valued more than English as a foreign language, suffice it to say they won't know much if any English.
It's not surprising really, considering that at the time French people could reasonably expect to never need to speak any language other than French.

F4LL0UT
Get Showgunners!
Registered: Jun 2011
From Poland
Posted January 25, 2013

Also I participated in a student exchange program between a German and a French school as did many of my friends, some younger some older than me. In all cases it was the same scenario - when the French students came to Germany everyone had to speak French. When it was the Germans' turn to go to France everyone had to speak French. And when Germans had trouble expressing themselves in French trying some English wasn't really helping, I remember many situations where I (and other German students) had to try really hard with our basic French skills at the cost of being laughed at by the French students. Ironically it was my exchange student's dad who made it possible for me at all to resort to German or English when I had trouble expressing myself in French at dinner with them.
Again, I know that these are only personal experiences (although I did hear similar stories from students from other schools and even countries) but I think that it is true to some degree that French people's willingness to learn another language is generally smaller than in case of many other European countries which probably has some comprehensible cultural and linguistic reasons (for example I do believe that having French as a first language makes it a little harder to learn additional languages than say with German as a first language). I really hope that you don't take this as an offensive statement and I know that many French people speak other languages very well. It's sometimes really hard discussing that kind of thing without drifting off into stereotypes and getting accused of things...
Post edited January 25, 2013 by F4LL0UT

timppu
Favorite race: Formula__One
Registered: Jun 2011
From Finland
Posted January 25, 2013

Speaking Finnish to them seemed to take them completely off-guard, and I usually got what I wanted by pointing to things etc.
Then again, some people seemed quite fine speaking English to us, e.g. the hotel manager and waiters at the hotel.
Post edited January 25, 2013 by timppu

F4LL0UT
Get Showgunners!
Registered: Jun 2011
From Poland

BlackDawn
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Registered: Jan 2013
From Canada

F4LL0UT
Get Showgunners!
Registered: Jun 2011
From Poland
Posted January 25, 2013

"What?"
"One beer"
"What?"
"(raising one finger) ONE (pointing at the tap) BEER"
"Ah, one beer" (With a slightly longer ee)

P1na
Wandering fruit
Registered: Apr 2012
From Spain
Posted January 25, 2013


Personally, almost every younger French person I've met spoke English decently.
Of course, if you try to speak English to people 50 year old and older, who went to school before English was required and at a time when German was actually valued more than English as a foreign language, suffice it to say they won't know much if any English.
It's not surprising really, considering that at the time French people could reasonably expect to never need to speak any language other than French.

F4LL0UT
Get Showgunners!
Registered: Jun 2011
From Poland

P1na
Wandering fruit
Registered: Apr 2012
From Spain
Posted January 25, 2013


Speaking Finnish to them seemed to take them completely off-guard, and I usually got what I wanted by pointing to things etc.
Then again, some people seemed quite fine speaking English to us, e.g. the hotel manager and waiters at the hotel.

mystral
User
Registered: Sep 2008
From Christmas Island
Posted January 25, 2013


Also I participated in a student exchange program between a German and a French school as did many of my friends, some younger some older than me. In all cases it was the same scenario - when the French students came to Germany everyone had to speak French. When it was the Germans' turn to go to France everyone had to speak French. And when Germans had trouble expressing themselves in French trying some English wasn't really helping, I remember many situations where I (and other German students) had to try really hard with our basic French skills at the cost of being laughed at by the French students. Ironically it was my exchange student's dad who made it possible for me at all to resort to German or English when I had trouble expressing myself in French at dinner with them.
Again, I know that these are only personal experiences (although I did hear similar stories from students from other schools and even countries) but I think that it is true to some degree that French people's willingness to learn another language is generally smaller than in case of many other European countries which probably has some comprehensible cultural and linguistic reasons (for example I do believe that having French as a first language makes it a little harder to learn additional languages than say with German as a first language). I really hope that you don't take this as an offensive statement and I know that many French people speak other languages very well. It's sometimes really hard discussing that kind of thing without drifting off into stereotypes and getting accused of things...
But frankly, I don't quite understand how young French people could NOT speak English at all. Not only is it mandatory, but it's usually emphasized by schools that being able to speak English is huge plus these days. I know that when I was at school, everybody had a decent grasp of English, not great by any means.
We even had a few English exchange students once, and nobody ridiculed them for their poor French or refused to switch to English if they really couldn't get their point across.

DProject
Not Deus Ex
Registered: Dec 2009
From Finland