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crazy_dave: Return of the Jedi was also not directed by Lucas. For Empire, Irvin Kirshnir was a good director and they also had Lawrence Kasdan on the script.
I guess this was back in the days when Lucas didn't surround himself with yes men. It's been pointed out that not even Spielberg could change his mind on some of the things in Crystal Skull so clearly Lucas is unwilling to listen to anyone these days. Which explains the decline of the franchise.
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Delixe: I guess this was back in the days when Lucas didn't surround himself with yes men. It's been pointed out that not even Spielberg could change his mind on some of the things in Crystal Skull so clearly Lucas is unwilling to listen to anyone these days. Which explains the decline of the franchise.
Yeah ... according to some, Lucas also started believing before making the 3rd Star Wars movie that audiences no longer cared about stories and that he was better off making movies with thrills to sell toys than bother with good plotting. Again, it's a shame. Gary Kurtz talks about the original Return of the Jedi outline here.

Edit: I just looked it up apparently Lawrence Kasdan was given credit on Return of the Jedi too.
Post edited May 03, 2011 by crazy_dave
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Arkose: When Star Wars first appeared on DVD they deliberately released the remakes first and then a dual release (with both versions) a while later.
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kentomatic: This is what I got (the dual release, that is). I'm tempted to throw out the "Special Edition" disks, but you never know when they might come in handy. I might have a party and be short on coasters or something.
Unfortunately the theatrical release ones are of hideous quality. They are scaled to fit a 4:3 screen with inserted black bars top and bottom, so if you watch them on a wide screen TV they are half-size and centered. You have to use your TV/DVD player zoom function to get them full screen.

Keep all the discs and add the ADYWAN releases to the DVD case. Han shoots first.
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ovoon: Bluray is a waste of money.
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nondeplumage: Shitty upscaled or shitty remastered Blu Rays are a waste of money. But Blu Rays can store far, far more stuff and look better than anything ever, and Blu Rays are getting a whole lot cheaper. There are ever bargain Blu Ray bins at stores now.

Well worth your money if you love movies.
I love movies, but it makes absolutely no sense for me to buy them like most people do. Why would I want to watch it more than once or twice?
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nondeplumage: Unless the damn box says original theatrical release, they can produce one less copy for me. Actually, any word on that end? Can't seem to find anything.
I agree with this. Unless they release a GOOD quality version of the original, theatrical trilogy, I'll pass.

I have them on DVD already, and how much more can they really do to clean up the film? If the awkward digital scenes weren't there, I'd be perfectly happy with them.
Post edited May 03, 2011 by elisstar
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ovoon: I love movies, but it makes absolutely no sense for me to buy them like most people do. Why would I want to watch it more than once or twice?
You already said that you like to watch Shawshank, etc... over and over. There's your answer. Everyone has different tastes, I guess.
Considering which forum this is I'm surprised no one's played the DRM card yet in this discussion.

I don't have a Blu-ray player, not sure I'd buy the movies on blu-ray. I got them on DVD and even for DVD they didn't look that good. Not as bad as Dune (the release I got looks like an animgif), but I've seen a lot of better looking DVDs (Speed racer was one, movie wasn't that good)

Regarding DRM. Blu-ray does utilise DRM, and I've heard from a few people who have been complaining they need to buy a new Blu-Ray player because the movie they just bought is too new and the manufacturer of the player hasn't released an updated firmware to support the newer DRM on the disc.

It might be overexaggerated, but I've heard a couple of different accounts of these kinds of problems and I'm not sure I'd toss money at something which might not look that much better with older classics.

Sure I'll likely get a b-ray player eventually, when my DVD player is burnt out and they've made low-power versions. When the player eats as much or more power than my 40" LCD TV, then I'd be considered not too impressed.
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DrakeFox: I've heard from a few people who have been complaining they need to buy a new Blu-Ray player because the movie they just bought is too new and the manufacturer of the player hasn't released an updated firmware to support the newer DRM on the disc.

It might be overexaggerated, but I've heard a couple of different accounts of these kinds of problems
Blu-ray players becoming deprecated is a very real problem. The PS3 is one of the best Blu-ray players because Sony adds support for every new Blu-ray feature. When 3D Blu-ray discs came out many older players were unable to get an update, but PS3 owners got one even if they had a launch model.

The PC isn't perfect either; bundled OEM software generally doesn't qualify for updates and there's no guarantee that the drive manufacturer will offer a newer OEM version, and not even Windows 7 can play Blu-ray natively. Ripping the discs is a viable solution, of course. Hopefully Windows 8 will include native playback.
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DrakeFox: Considering which forum this is I'm surprised no one's played the DRM card yet in this discussion.
DRM and compatibility are different animals.
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PhoenixWright: GOD SO MUCH EDITING: I have to say, I agree that Netflix streaming looks surprisingly good. I definitely am fine streaming HD content from Netflix in the place of a Blu-ray, if only for the sake of convenience. Honestly it blew me away, they're doing a great job.
Pretty much this. I have a 47 inch 1080p LCD and Netflix looks great.

I've seen BluRay on PS3, I have a PS3 that sits in its box, fuck BluRay and its stupid boot times, infuriating ads, and all the other BS that didn't help the consumer one bit. I hope BluRay dies in favor of all you can eat streaming now. Physical discs had their chance to last another generation and the media idiots screwed the pooch being greedy dinosaurs.
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orcishgamer: Physical discs had their chance to last another generation and the media idiots screwed the pooch being greedy dinosaurs.
I've got physical discs 40 years old and are called records. I have no doubt my Blu Ray discs are going to last.
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orcishgamer: Physical discs had their chance to last another generation and the media idiots screwed the pooch being greedy dinosaurs.
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nondeplumage: I've got physical discs 40 years old and are called records. I have no doubt my Blu Ray discs are going to last.
You have great faith in them. Check into Laser Rot, the glue will go, eventually. These things are digital, not analog and made way different.
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orcishgamer: You have great faith in them. Check into Laser Rot, the glue will go, eventually. These things are digital, not analog and made way different.
Yes, they'll go bad eventually. But so will my computer and lamp and car and me. Entropy always wins.
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orcishgamer: You have great faith in them. Check into Laser Rot, the glue will go, eventually. These things are digital, not analog and made way different.
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nondeplumage: Yes, they'll go bad eventually. But so will my computer and lamp and car and me. Entropy always wins.
Of course everything does. My only argument about BluRay losing this generation is that they saddled the physical release with so much dog-crap that people who would have been inclined to wholesale support it had both price and the dog-crap reasons to avoid it, especially when streaming in areas with high bandwidth is getting so damned good. Sooner or later the unicasting issues will be all but solved and that will be all she wrote for TV and physical discs. What does a high quality HD rip weigh in at these days on TPB or whatever? I'll be able to cram a 2 TB drive in my pocket by the end of 2011.
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nondeplumage: Shitty upscaled or shitty remastered Blu Rays are a waste of money. But Blu Rays can store far, far more stuff and look better than anything ever, and Blu Rays are getting a whole lot cheaper. There are ever bargain Blu Ray bins at stores now.

Well worth your money if you love movies.
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ovoon: I love movies, but it makes absolutely no sense for me to buy them like most people do. Why would I want to watch it more than once or twice?
I have about 1500 titles in my library at the moment. Admittedly, I am as much fueled by a desire to collect as anything, but there are a few movies that I watch at least once a year if not more often.

Paul Thomas Anderson's Boogie Nights and Magnolia are two such titles that I watch over and over. Lawrence of Arabia is another.

I just bought two Blu-Ray movies today. Misery and Return of the Living Dead... $7 each, new.

Blu-Ray is obviously superior than DVD, but I also bought four DVDs today... because frankly, its a good medium and I bought them at great prices.

Blu-Ray is finally settling into a price point where I am starting to buy more Blu-Ray than DVD... but I bought The Kids Are Alright today on DVD. Its a comedic drama about an unusual family. I can't imagine what FX or details I need amplified by the Blu-Ray experience. But you can bet that when THOR is released, I'll get the Blu-Ray (though probably several months after release when I can buy it at or under $10... you can't build a library at full retail).