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Well CD Projekt rerelased the polish localised version of PS:T 22nd of may this year and box has ATARI logo on it like the Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale compilations did so the rights are in hands of Infogrames/ATARI.
Infogrames/ATARI also hold exclusive rights to develop and publish games based on Hasbro properties, which included Dungeons and Dragons, Mr. Potato Head, My Little Pony and others, for a period of 15 years (starting from january 2001) plus an option for an additional 5 years based on performance.
Post edited September 29, 2009 by Petrell
The real problem with PST and other D&D games is the vast number of parties with their fingers in the pie. Black Isle who were a subsidiary of interplay who got bought by infogrammes who became atari licenced the universe from wizards who were bought by hasbro who killed the planescape setting and apparently aren't interested in releasing things based on old properties and prefer to sit on them, ignoring the money they could make (the EA of the pen & paper gaming industry?). Depending on how the ownership is split up, any or all of those parties might have to agree to re-selling the game. Imagine if for some reason part of the code still belonged to a disgruntled former black isle employee (unlikely given how games are normally developed), that one person could be holding up the entire process in spite of the wishes of pretty much everyone (The micheal atkinson of the game industry?).
There's a reason that lawyers get paid well...
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manatree: "Download it with an OATH that if it ever becomes available for legal download, even if its on the dreaded steam, you buy it the second it appears with absolutely no excuses for weaseling out. THEN there's no moral issue"
Oh come on, Steam isn't even the worst of it. I won't bother to argue right now (I've got the ultimate end-all be-all post planned out!), but really, "dreaded" Steam? There are far more worse things than Steam. No hostility wanted, just saying, it just makes me sad that there's any kind of bashing in a community like this.

Hehe mine was entirely flippant, in reality I have a rather neutral stance on steam. I have to say I'm interested in reading the "ultimate end-all be-all post" now
Just because I'm a fan of taking random shots in the dark, I just emailed Atari and asked if they hold the rights and if not, could they suggest someone who might. Unlikely to work but worth a try
Post edited September 29, 2009 by Aliasalpha
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Aliasalpha: Hehe mine was entirely flippant, in reality I have a rather neutral stance on steam. I have to say I'm interested in reading the "ultimate end-all be-all post" now
Just because I'm a fan of taking random shots in the dark, I just emailed Atari and asked if they hold the rights and if not, could they suggest someone who might. Unlikely to work but worth a try

I'll be trying my best, no doubt. :)
Seriously Atari, if you own this thing, SELL IT! It will make lots of green pieces of paper for you. With that said...I'm curious how many high business execs read community forums.
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manatree: I really hope LucasArts does the sensible thing and release their old games here (heck, I might even buy the original Monkey Island even though I've got the Special Edition). I hear the Steam releases are a mess because they haven't made the code work for XP and newer OSes. Which is, quite frankly, appalling. Bring back the old philosophies, not the old code, LucasArts.

Steam releases all work perfectly for me on Win7 and Vista, both 64bit.
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anjohl: Face it, PST is, and will only ever be, available via $100 on ebay, or for free via "piracy".

Not true. I bought my copy a few months ago at an estate sale for $3! ;)
And it works perfectly on 32 bit XP as well as Win 98SE. I haven't tried it yet on my 32 bit Vista machine.
This is one reason why I dread everything only being available via digital downloads. It will prevent deals like the this from happening. As well as preventing games that the owner no longer wants available from being available.
Post edited September 29, 2009 by mogamer
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manatree: I really hope LucasArts does the sensible thing and release their old games here (heck, I might even buy the original Monkey Island even though I've got the Special Edition). I hear the Steam releases are a mess because they haven't made the code work for XP and newer OSes. Which is, quite frankly, appalling. Bring back the old philosophies, not the old code, LucasArts.
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StingingVelvet: Steam releases all work perfectly for me on Win7 and Vista, both 64bit.

I should've been clearer. I've been hearing that sound sometimes cuts out in one of the games (can't remember which off the top of my head) and similar stuff.
Getting a digital copy of this would be great, I hate having to switch between 4 CDs :P
Yes, I know you can copy the CDs onto your hard drive, but it takes up a lot of space xD
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terraNivium: Getting a digital copy of this would be great, I hate having to switch between 4 CDs :P
Yes, I know you can copy the CDs onto your hard drive, but it takes up a lot of space xD

A download version would take the same amount of space as copying the CD's to the HDD... actually, it'd take almost double that since the installer files are on the drive as well :-P
hmm... you have a point there xD
I was thinking that if permission was given to re-release on GOG or some other site, that a commercial crack (of sorts) would be given, instead of them being lazy and just copying the CD contents into a folder.
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terraNivium: hmm... you have a point there xD
I was thinking that if permission was given to re-release on GOG or some other site, that a commercial crack (of sorts) would be given, instead of them being lazy and just copying the CD contents into a folder.

To use any sort of no-cd cracks, that's exactly what you have to do... how else would the game find its files? Magical elves?
Post edited September 29, 2009 by Miaghstir
Yeah... that was fairly stupid of me, been a while since I played. I forgot the CD switching was specifically for content in older games, unlike newer games where you have CD checks for no reason :P.
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StingingVelvet: Steam releases all work perfectly for me on Win7 and Vista, both 64bit.
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manatree: I should've been clearer. I've been hearing that sound sometimes cuts out in one of the games (can't remember which off the top of my head) and similar stuff.

If you mean they took the music out of Jedi Knight, this is true, they did. Other than that, no sound issues here either.
If you have the old CDs you can get the music back in the Steam version and still take advantage of Steam getting around the 16bit installer issue.
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Aliasalpha: Just because I'm a fan of taking random shots in the dark, I just emailed Atari and asked if they hold the rights and if not, could they suggest someone who might. Unlikely to work but worth a try

Someone on the Steam forum did this too and got a reply.
Source:
[url=]http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=944629&page=2[/url]

Thank you for contacting Atari customer support. As we do retain rights for Dungons and Dragons for use in video games. Planescape: Torment is owned and supported currently by Interplay. For all inquires please contact them from the link below for assistance.
http://www.interplay.com/
Thank you
Atari Support Team

Then sent a massage to Interplay and got a reply:

Unfortunately, the Atari rep was misinformed. Interplay no longer has the rights to Planescape Torment. We did not release the new version. I confirmed this with our CEO.
I noticed that Amazon.co.uk has the new release and has Interplay improperly listed as the publisher. I believe they are using old art, which would explain our logo being on their box.
Sorry for the confusion.
Sincerely,
-Interplay

So the question still stands, who owns the rights...
Post edited May 13, 2010 by TheRog
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TheRog: So the question still stands, who owns the rights...

Hasbro. GOG has confirmed in at least one interview they're talking with them regarding this and are optimistic.
Any updates on this? I was looking at the Planescape: Torment, Icewind Dale and Baldur's Gate reprints that came out last year, but I'm not sure who publishes them. These are how the new reprints look:
http://img.neoseeker.com/v_image.php?type=news&articleid=12134&image=1
No Atari logo. Anybody have one or all of them? How are they?
Post edited June 21, 2010 by BillMcGee