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uulav: this ubuntu case is from my own experiences. update manager gives me ati driver update, i update and boot. after update graphical interface is gone because xorg.conf have some erros in it. i have to use terminal commands to fix xorg.conf ang get graphical interface up and running again. so if you dont know how to use terminal you would be fucked in that case.
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spinefarm: Uh you are a Mac user and you talk about the last releases of Ubuntu?
I have Ubuntu 12.04 on both of my laptops. One is using AMD CPU & Ati VGA the other one is Intel CPU & VGA . No problems with drivers on both so far... and this is with Ubuntu in beta ;)

From Ubuntu 10.04 to last release I didn't have issues with drivers... so I guess the problem is in you ;)
So basically what you are saying for that person who is having those problems that he is fucked. Nice way to lure people to use linux and when they have problems you just say "fucky you".
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spinefarm: From Ubuntu 10.04 to last release I didn't have issues with drivers... so I guess the problem is in you ;)
A friend of mine had issues the last time he tried installing the drivers for his AMD GPU, terrible GUI performance and various glitches here and there. He's been driverless ever since. And he's an Ubuntu user for a long time now.

It may be the drivers and not exactly Ubuntu-related, but still, GPU support for Linux isn't that good.
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Adzeth: Yes. Ubuntu is very gentle and caring, especially if it's your first time.
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the_bard: Are we still talking about OSs; or is Ubuntu the name of a local prostitute?
Ubuntu is a Nguni word which has no direct translation into English, but is used to describe a particular African worldview in which people can only find fulfilment through interacting with other people. Thus is represents a spirit of kinship across both race and creed which united mankind to a common purpose.
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spinefarm: Uh you are a Mac user and you talk about the last releases of Ubuntu?
I have Ubuntu 12.04 on both of my laptops. One is using AMD CPU & Ati VGA the other one is Intel CPU & VGA . No problems with drivers on both so far... and this is with Ubuntu in beta ;)

From Ubuntu 10.04 to last release I didn't have issues with drivers... so I guess the problem is in you ;)
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uulav: So basically what you are saying for that person who is having those problems that he is fucked. Nice way to lure people to use linux and when they have problems you just say "fucky you".
No I'm basically saying to read more about it :) I have no issues with Ubuntu. It is an user friendly OS for newbies on Unix Distribution.
The only issue with Unix based OSs is the games compatibility :) But people use Unix for offices not for gaming ;)
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spinefarm: From Ubuntu 10.04 to last release I didn't have issues with drivers... so I guess the problem is in you ;)
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kavazovangel: A friend of mine had issues the last time he tried installing the drivers for his AMD GPU, terrible GUI performance and various glitches here and there. He's been driverless ever since. And he's an Ubuntu user for a long time now.

It may be the drivers and not exactly Ubuntu-related, but still, GPU support for Linux isn't that good.
The problem is not from Ubuntu... it's from Ati/Nvidia/Intel... they just don't like supporting another OS... Dunno my ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470 works fine with latest ATI drivers on Ubuntu...
Post edited April 07, 2012 by spinefarm
I will recommend Ubuntu if you are just totally anti-redmondware, don't want to pay money for an OS, or just lack enough computing skills in general as to be unable to empty out a piss filled boot.
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the_bard: I will recommend Ubuntu if you are just totally anti-redmondware, don't want to pay money for an OS, or just lack enough computing skills in general as to be unable to empty out a piss filled boot.
Or you just don't want to pay 200$ for a buged OS :)
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the_bard: I will recommend Ubuntu if you are just totally anti-redmondware, don't want to pay money for an OS, or just lack enough computing skills in general as to be unable to empty out a piss filled boot.
I'm OK with Old Yeller (my PC 'cause when I was an amateur it made lots of error noises). I know how delete and remove viruses and blah blah blah. EDIT: VMware FTW!
Post edited April 07, 2012 by somegamer786
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spinefarm: Or you just don't want to pay 200$ for a buged OS :)
So you can get a bugged OS for free! :p
90s' Microsoft? They were even more hated then than they are now! The average user was happy but there was serious resentment towards Bill Gates in the old days. Nowadays we kind of just put up with it like Adobe's products, excellent usability but terrible service and outrageous prices.
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spinefarm: Or you just don't want to pay 200$ for a buged OS :)
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kavazovangel: So you can get a bugged OS for free! :p
Ok let me put it this way: Ubuntu is good enough alternative for WIndows 7 for a normal user that don't use his PC for different things than browsing the web,listening to music,watching movies...writing a document on OpenOffice.
If somebody can't use the program manager he can always read about it :) Enough info out there.

About mentioned from you Fedora.... It's definetly for users that are used to Unix...
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spinefarm: ...
I know, dude. I was just fanboy-like trashtalking, nothing serious. :)
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Roman5: the first Xbox was OK but the 360 is absolutely terrible, and I don't think it's going to get any better at this point, you also have to take into consideration that Microsoft has done literally Zero innovation in the industry and has done nothing but bad for it
Xbox Live. Like it or hate it, that's an absolutely massive innovation on par with anything Nintendo or Sony has done for the collective industry.
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kavazovangel: So you can get a bugged OS for free! :p
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spinefarm: Ok let me put it this way: Ubuntu is good enough alternative for WIndows 7 for a normal user that don't use his PC for different things than browsing the web,listening to music,watching movies...writing a document on OpenOffice.
If somebody can't use the program manager he can always read about it :) Enough info out there.

About mentioned from you Fedora.... It's definetly for users that are used to Unix...
I would say that everyone who is planning to install linux should learn atleast basic commands in terminal.
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spinefarm: ...
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kavazovangel: I know, dude. I was just fanboy-like trashtalking, nothing serious. :)
I will fanboy-smack you to fly next to Alexander Makedonski stadium :D
Also, on the subject of Linux: I think the ease of use of Ubuntu is vastly overstated. If you're already good with computers and willing to look for alternative open source programs over the usual Windows ones, than Ubuntu is great. However, I've known way too many people who tried installing Ubuntu on their parents' computers so they stop getting so many viruses, and it always seems to end with frustration and tragedy.

It's a great system, but it's definitely not as easy to use because a) people aren't used to it and b) you can't use the majority of the usual programs on it, and need to go out of your way for alternatives. The kinds of users looking for ease of use are usually the same kind of users that hate change.