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Posted May 03, 2012
My favorite LucasArts game is Galactic Battlegrounds, but that's mostly because of the fact that it's basically an Age of Kings mod, so it's like playing an Age of Empires game with lasers and stormtroopers, that and the amount of playable races is large.
Posted May 03, 2012
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Tarm: You can't really compare old games sales with new games. The reason many didn't buy Fallout on GOG is because it's such a popular game that most already had a working copy and the extras wasn't worth it to buy it again.
Had the old game been hard to get to work on modern systems or hard to find it would have been a different situation.
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Pheace: I agree that it's not a completely fair example but I also don't believe you can in any way definitively say that GOG is outselling Steam on those, because in the end, Steam still has the massive customer base and GOG is still just an up and comer.

Ah and my pointing out of Fallout was not to reason why it might or might not have sold well, it was rather to show that *even* one of the best sold games on GOG has only been sold to only about 10% of it's userbase, which means the bulk of the other games on GOG are sold to an even smaller percentage of it's userbase.

Now granted, overall I wouldn't be shocked that except for a few obvious exceptions like Free games and high profile games a lot of the games on Steam hang around 10% as well (with maybe the more successful ones that aren't free (or Valve) reaching into the 20%'s). It's a bit hard to tell with these numbers.

I'm not saying one way or the other by the way. I don't *know* for a fact if GOG sells more, but I also wouldn't fault a developer for not joining GOG yet based on the assumption that GOG would sell more. Because there's simply no real evidence for that.
I'm not going to argue sales figures here because I don't know and doesn't want to guess.
My point is that comparing GOG to Steam isn't as easy as some might think. Different sized customer base and also overall a different type of customers.
Posted May 03, 2012
Well, I bet LucasArts will come to GOG.com when the dumbass currently owning the company will be out of the games once and for good (ie no more Star Wars games/remakes/remasters/re-release/3D/4D/5D/4K/etc)....
Posted May 03, 2012
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jpinsa: Sure, but isn't some profit better than none. Grim Fandango alone has been wishlisted 12 768 times on GOG. At $5.99 that's $76 480.32!
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spindown: That's nothing to George. He doesn't even get out of bed for less than $100k.
Then again, George Lucas used to be one of the young rebels in Hollywood back when his childish ideas for a space opera were turned down, fighting the power and for the freedom of movie-making. He even had the gal to try to release a movie without credits in the beginning, which was quite unheard of! The unions disliked that idea.

Knowing that, he should willingly back up the underdogs of (PC) gaming which are for the freedom of the industry, trying to fight the restrictions and big labels.
Posted May 03, 2012
Lucas of 1977 and Lucas of today are two different people. Just look at the new Star Wars trilogy and The new Indiana Jones movie. The guy has totally lost his creativity and vision. I don't expect him to do anything worthwhile these days.
Posted May 03, 2012
I wonder if George Lucas has any say in a matter such as this. LucasArts just appoint department heads and give them full authority to run that leg of the business. It's a matter of getting through to whoever calls the shots with these classic games.
Posted May 03, 2012
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timppu: ...George Lucas used to be one of the young rebels in Hollywood...
Rebels of the past usually end up becoming members in the status quo. Especially when they've got millions of money amounts.
Posted May 03, 2012
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thespian9099: Rebels of the past usually end up becoming members in the status quo. Especially when they've got millions of money amounts.
Like a certain Anakin? :P
Posted May 03, 2012
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thespian9099: Rebels of the past usually end up becoming members in the status quo. Especially when they've got millions of money amounts.
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JMich: Like a certain Anakin? :P
Not to mention Jar-Jar Binks! :)
Posted May 03, 2012
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PMIK: The guy has totally lost his creativity and vision.
No. His creativity and vision are not of your liking, but that doesn't mean he lost anything.

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thespian9099: Rebels of the past usually end up becoming members in the status quo. Especially when they've got millions of money amounts.
Right, because he's such a greedy old man...

What status quo are you referring to?
Posted May 03, 2012
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thespian9099: Rebels of the past usually end up becoming members in the status quo. Especially when they've got millions of money amounts.
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Alexrd: Right, because he's such a greedy old man...

What status quo are you referring to?
The phrase is not intended to attack George Lucas (I do not care about private life of creators, only in his works, so do not know if this is the case with him), but to say that being a rebel in youth does not automatically equals to be a rebel forever.

It's almost a law of history (IMHO) that often scientists / artists / politics / * insert a category here* that have been rebellious in his youth become rigid upholders of the ideas prevailing in his old age (hence the status quo reference). Obviously in some cases because his ideas are now triumphing over the previous generation but threatened by the next one.

And on the question of money and how it affects the ideals of human beings, if I may use a cliché would be of the idealistic hippies becoming greedy Wall Street brokers/bankers years after.

Fortunately, there are also examples to the contrary, and if you plead me that is the case with Lucas, bravo for him.
Post edited May 03, 2012 by thespian9099
Posted May 03, 2012
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PMIK: It seems rather stupid that they won't sell without DRM (if its indeed true)

My old CD copies of Grim Fandango, Tie fighter etc. have no DRM. They used to make a profit without DRM on new products, why not sell them now that they are old and everyone's already played them anyway.
Back in the day, when CD-ROM was new technology, there wasn't Internet as we know it and no recordable CD-Rs (at least not for home use).

So for a little while, CD format in itself was a form of DRM, as there was no efficient way to copy and distribute all that content of the original CD.
Very few people would have the patience to load a full CD-ROM over a modem connection or from couple of hundred floppies.
Posted May 03, 2012
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PMIK: It seems rather stupid that they won't sell without DRM (if its indeed true)

My old CD copies of Grim Fandango, Tie fighter etc. have no DRM. They used to make a profit without DRM on new products, why not sell them now that they are old and everyone's already played them anyway.
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PixelBoy: Back in the day, when CD-ROM was new technology, there wasn't Internet as we know it and no recordable CD-Rs (at least not for home use).



So for a little while, CD format in itself was a form of DRM, as there was no efficient way to copy and distribute all that content of the original CD.
Very few people would have the patience to load a full CD-ROM over a modem connection or from couple of hundred floppies.
Yeah but back in the day, yoy would just borrow your friends copy of the game, install it and play it then return it. Essentially in a community of friends only 1 person would buy the game and 20 more would play it. Technically and according to the game's user agreement, it wasn't legal but that's how it happened whn we were kids.
Post edited May 03, 2012 by jpinsa
Posted May 03, 2012
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PMIK: The guy has totally lost his creativity and vision.
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Alexrd: No. His creativity and vision are not of your liking, but that doesn't mean he lost anything.

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thespian9099:
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Alexrd:
I´m sorry but I do agree with PMK, the script from the las Indiana jones move and the new star wars trilogy were mediocre at best. And Lucasarts stopped beng an innovating company long time ago.
Posted May 03, 2012
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Alexrd: No. His creativity and vision are not of your liking, but that doesn't mean he lost anything.
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tejozaszaszas: I´m sorry but I do agree with PMK, the script from the las Indiana jones move and the new star wars trilogy were mediocre at best. And Lucasarts stopped beng an innovating company long time ago.
I do not like the latest Indiana Jones movie but Lucas didn't do a bad job. He intended it to be characteristic of the entertainment media of that time and with that he succeeded. The movie is very well made.
It's just that the Indiana Jones character doesn't fit in that environment. He's very much a product of the time from around the other movies.
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