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I don't believe any statistic where Firefox is above IE.
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zeffyr: You certainly aren't talking about the reality. Firefox should be on Chrome's place.
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OlivawR: I don't believe any statistic where Firefox is above IE.
Those statistics are specific to that site only, which has way less visits than let's say Wikipedia, and that's a technology focused site, so prevalence of Firefox is totally expected.

For Wikipedia stats for example, see https://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm

And there is no such thing as precise global statistics for this.
Post edited November 28, 2014 by shmerl
Firefox, but only with the classic theme restorer, so I can actually have a file bar. I hate all these new programs with a preferences button instead of a file bar. That is why I also use Cinnamon instead of Gnome.
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coryrj1995: Firefox, but only with the classic theme restorer, so I can actually have a file bar. I hate all these new programs with a preferences button instead of a file bar. That is why I also use Cinnamon instead of Gnome.
Do you mean the menu? You can toggle it on and off with Alt. I also use classic theme restorer, but mostly to allow adjusting things like putting RSS indicator back into URL bar and taking Reload button out of it.
Post edited November 28, 2014 by shmerl
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FoxySage: Not in my experience. It's been pretty good with little to no lag and zero bugs. And i usually run with 200+ tabs in the browser.

I've had a crash now and then with Firefox, but that only happens once in a blue moon.
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monkeydelarge: There are bugs, you just haven't noticed them. And how powerful is your PC? I'm guessing your PC is 100 times better than mine. I'm sure if your PC is good enough, Firefox won't lag because the reason is lags is because it's a very demanding browser.
Could you name some of these bugs then?

My computer is a few years old but it's fairly good, not the best though. It can barely run Skyrim on high settings with mods, but that game is poorly optimised. Divinity Original Sin runs smoothly on ultra settings in comparison.
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snowkatt: i dont care for the candy cane interface of firefox that is almost always in flux even though seamonkey identifies it self as firefox 33 at the moment
I'm glad that on Linux (well, in my disto at least) Firefox uses the "old but fine" interface.

I also use Konqueror or Rekonq some times.
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moonshineshadow: Huh yahoo, ads? Did I miss something? Of course I might not be seeing that because of addons I use.
Some major search engines give a portion of ad revenue from search results pages to browser companies (based on the user agent string, I think) to persuade them to release the browsers with support for those search engines built in. In the past, Google has paid the most, so they got to be the default search engine. Now Yahoo came in with a better offer so they get to be default instead, but you can still switch to Google easily.

The ads are in the "new tab" page. You know when you open a new tab Firefox shows you a bunch of tiles with thumbnails of websites you visit frequently? (well, I have new tabs set to about:blank, but that's just me). Well, new users have no browsing history, so now the tiles initially point to sponsored sites. I'm OK with this.
I'm using Seamonkey as my main browser from the days they continued the original Mozilla browser. I do keep Firefox as backup.
I'm currently using Opera and it works overall well for me. Firefox felt like it was going downhill so I decided to try out new browsers.

I might be trying out Pale Moon in the near future.
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moonshineshadow: Huh yahoo, ads? Did I miss something? Of course I might not be seeing that because of addons I use.
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HertogJan: Mozilla replaced the Google search box with a Yahoo search box in the US-version of Firefox. It could be that it's only visible in new installations and not in updates as people already chose a search engine in an installed version.

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monkeydelarge: I'm sure if your PC is good enough, Firefox won't lag because the reason is lags is because it's a very demanding browser.
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HertogJan: That goes for every program.

The reason Firefox is so demanding is the support for old hardware. Mozilla chooses to support a very wide range of old hardware.
See point 7 of http://www.palemoon.org/technical.shtml#Firefox_Differences

Having moved from Firefox to Pale Moon, I can say I don't suffer crashes anymore (didn't suffer many with FF) and I notice a speed increase.
Not every program is demanding. Look at Chrome... Chrome is lightning fast on my machine.
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OlivawR: What a difference between what the computer educated people and the uneducated average computer user. Firefox is dominating, Chrome a distant second place and IE barely used. The two sides are exact opposite.
I find it hilarious when said computer educated people bash IE. It must be because they are too much computer educated.
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OlivawR: What a difference between what the computer educated people and the uneducated average computer user. Firefox is dominating, Chrome a distant second place and IE barely used. The two sides are exact opposite.
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zeffyr: You certainly aren't talking about the reality. Firefox should be on Chrome's place.
Reality, eh?

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/11/windows-8-xs-market-share-really-is-closing-in-on-windows-xps/
Post edited November 28, 2014 by Elenarie
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realkman666: After 5 years of making excuses for the shitty, laggy, buggy and frustrating Opera, I'm kicking the bitch to the curb. I'll be keeping Explorer as secondary only.
I use 3 browsers and these are the order of use:

Chrome
Firefox
Opera

All are the latest versions and each used for different reasons, or when one or the others are being a pain and not showing things right.

I used to develop graphics for web pages so I have all 5 major browsers installed on my system.
Firefox is the one and only for me. I hate EVERYTHING google, ever since the copyrights involvements in our search results and their proper display thereof.

Besides, a fox! A FIRE-fox! I want to catch it!

Even if it resembles chrome a bit, in its current state...
Post edited November 28, 2014 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
IceDragon, PaleMoon, Firefox with bluhell firewall + omibar + classic toolbar buttons
on android - firefox
Post edited November 28, 2014 by darkplanetar
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kreidos: Pale Moon.

Love Firefox mechanics; Hate Firefox aesthetics.
^ What they said. Ever since Firefox went into the double digits something version-wise, I switched to Pale Moon and never looked back :-)

I do keep a version of the latest Firefox to see how it's evolving, but can't use it without all the necessary add-ons to get the good old look and feel back.