Posted January 09, 2013
HereForTheBeer
Positive Patty
Registered: Oct 2009
From United States
Skunk
Hello, GOG staff. Please remove my forum posts.
Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
PimPamPet
Daring Dragoon
Registered: Mar 2009
From Netherlands
Posted January 09, 2013
The answer to the question depends on the individual. My advice is, life's short so spend it pursuing whatever things you find emotionally or intellectually satisfying. Don't let anyone stand in your way, but try not to break any laws (in case you find this last thing unavoidable, perhaps you should rethink your plans).
PhilD
uh-huh, sure.
Registered: Mar 2011
From United States
Posted January 10, 2013
What remains with you throughout your Life???
Comments, Expressions, outpourings...Please!
Thanks :)
shane-o
I'm just a man
Registered: Jan 2011
From Australia
Posted January 10, 2013
For me it's perspective, forgiveness, family, enjoy things day-by-day (live day-by-day too), and helping your fellow people without expectation
Lionel212008
Hedonistic pig
Registered: Jan 2011
From Other
Densetsu
zen
Registered: May 2012
From Slovenia
Posted January 10, 2013
There is no real or true meaning to life. We exist...and that is all there is to it. For in the scheme of things we are far less important than that of specks of dust. True knowledge is to know the extent of our ignorance.
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The very meaning of life as we know it probably is to defy entropy. If not, why the evolution?
Maybe the ultimate goal is to achieve the existence indifferent to time or space. The ultimate being.
I do agree that for what we are and what we do; if for nothing else for the biological facts; we are very primitive, and yet fascinating. In millions of years, if beings with their origins in human will still be around, who knows where, or what they will be and what they will be capable of. Nobody can say that a species more evolved could not significantly manipulate the scheme of things.
Lionel212008
Hedonistic pig
Registered: Jan 2011
From Other
Posted January 10, 2013
Nothing in life can be stated with absolute certainty. There does not have to be a definite meaning to existence....it could very well be the outcome of chaos.Of mad random chance and isn't something that is denoted by design.Objectively there is nothing to show the conception or ideation of design.
The object of evolution is to propagate a given species. Evolution, hasn't shown any intent towards defying the laws of thermodynamics. Even exceptions like the Turritopsis nutricula do not defy the laws of entropy per se. Hence there is little basis for your conjecture to be a tenable one.
T.
Lionel212008: ...
There is no real or true meaning to life. We exist...and that is all there is to it. For in the scheme of things we are far less important than that of specks of dust. True knowledge is to know the extent of our ignorance.
...
Densetsu: Of course that can not be a definitive statement.
The very meaning of life as we know it probably is to defy entropy. If not, why the evolution?
Maybe the ultimate goal is to achieve the existence indifferent to time or space. The ultimate being.
I do agree that for what we are and what we do; if for nothing else for the biological facts; we are very primitive, and yet fascinating. In millions of years, if beings with their origins in human will still be around, who knows where, or what they will be and what they will be capable of. Nobody can say that a species more evolved could not significantly manipulate the scheme of things.
The object of evolution is to propagate a given species. Evolution, hasn't shown any intent towards defying the laws of thermodynamics. Even exceptions like the Turritopsis nutricula do not defy the laws of entropy per se. Hence there is little basis for your conjecture to be a tenable one.
T.
There is no real or true meaning to life. We exist...and that is all there is to it. For in the scheme of things we are far less important than that of specks of dust. True knowledge is to know the extent of our ignorance.
...
The very meaning of life as we know it probably is to defy entropy. If not, why the evolution?
Maybe the ultimate goal is to achieve the existence indifferent to time or space. The ultimate being.
I do agree that for what we are and what we do; if for nothing else for the biological facts; we are very primitive, and yet fascinating. In millions of years, if beings with their origins in human will still be around, who knows where, or what they will be and what they will be capable of. Nobody can say that a species more evolved could not significantly manipulate the scheme of things.
Post edited January 10, 2013 by Lionel212008
Telika
Registered: Apr 2012
From Switzerland
Posted January 10, 2013
Anyway, i think the answer is empathy.
Which has bad press, as it's an obstacle to individual profit, generates a cumbersome sense of mutual responsability, and, given people's tendency to feel it at higher degrees for members of their networks or some shared collective identity, is forcefully replaced by glorified indifference at administrative levels.
But yeah, it's actually the thing that matters.
Which has bad press, as it's an obstacle to individual profit, generates a cumbersome sense of mutual responsability, and, given people's tendency to feel it at higher degrees for members of their networks or some shared collective identity, is forcefully replaced by glorified indifference at administrative levels.
But yeah, it's actually the thing that matters.
Lionel212008
Hedonistic pig
Registered: Jan 2011
From Other
Posted January 10, 2013
Well, I think if there is a purpose that must be denoted then we exist for a singular reason "To survive and replicate"....and that is why sex makes us so happy.
Telika: Anyway, i think the answer is empathy.
Which has bad press, as it's an obstacle to individual profit, generates a cumbersome sense of mutual responsability, and, given people's tendency to feel it at higher degrees for members of their networks or some shared collective identity, is forcefully replaced by glorified indifference at administrative levels.
But yeah, it's actually the thing that matters.
Which has bad press, as it's an obstacle to individual profit, generates a cumbersome sense of mutual responsability, and, given people's tendency to feel it at higher degrees for members of their networks or some shared collective identity, is forcefully replaced by glorified indifference at administrative levels.
But yeah, it's actually the thing that matters.
Asbeau
shot the food
Registered: Nov 2011
From United Kingdom
Posted January 10, 2013
What TRULY matters in Life?
forum rep?
forum rep?
Densetsu
zen
Registered: May 2012
From Slovenia
Posted January 10, 2013
The object of evolution is to propagate a given species. Evolution, hasn't shown any intent towards defying the laws of thermodynamics. Even exceptions like the Turritopsis nutricula do not defy the laws of entropy per se. Hence there is little basis for your conjecture to be a tenable one.
T.
It is your right to believe about the evolution what you will.
But, all knowledge the mankind supposedly has about the evolution is derived from the studies of lifeforms on Earth, which are the only form of existence that we officially know. Does that make the knowledge a fact? As you said for yourself, there (supposedly) are grander schemes of things.
In any case, to each his own.
Lionel212008
Hedonistic pig
Registered: Jan 2011
From Other
Posted January 10, 2013
" And if that would be so, what if the "chaos" is purposeful? The more choices there are, the more there are possibilities.
"It is your right to believe about the evolution what you will."
Belief - is an interesting word that effectively alludes that a subject is to espouse a pre-conceived notion. It mires all objectivity. What you're are referring to is the observer effect since human beings by virtue of the psyche they carry would like to perceive order even if there is none.
To cite an analogy; not a very good one
Imagine if all the world, the universe and the cosmos were made of poop. Just different shades and forms of poop. Then the beings of poop would imagine that they were the cleanest, best smelling and the most perfect beings in existence since there would be nothing to show them otherwise.
" But, all knowledge the mankind supposedly has about the evolution is derived from the studies of lifeforms on Earth, which are the only form of existence that we officially know. Does that make the knowledge a fact? As you said for yourself, there (supposedly) are grander schemes of things."
There is no such thing as an absolute fact in science. It depends on a systematic body of evidence and follows an objective process of ratiocination to arrive at a conclusion. And it offers the most tenable explanation there that is not clouded by a decision or a pre-conceived notion such as belief to explain how a specific phenomenon were to occur.And that is why it is true that there is much that goes beyond our ken but to surmise that this is the work of a god is to not further our understanding of a given occurrence or phenomenon.
"It is your right to believe about the evolution what you will."
Belief - is an interesting word that effectively alludes that a subject is to espouse a pre-conceived notion. It mires all objectivity. What you're are referring to is the observer effect since human beings by virtue of the psyche they carry would like to perceive order even if there is none.
To cite an analogy; not a very good one
Imagine if all the world, the universe and the cosmos were made of poop. Just different shades and forms of poop. Then the beings of poop would imagine that they were the cleanest, best smelling and the most perfect beings in existence since there would be nothing to show them otherwise.
" But, all knowledge the mankind supposedly has about the evolution is derived from the studies of lifeforms on Earth, which are the only form of existence that we officially know. Does that make the knowledge a fact? As you said for yourself, there (supposedly) are grander schemes of things."
There is no such thing as an absolute fact in science. It depends on a systematic body of evidence and follows an objective process of ratiocination to arrive at a conclusion. And it offers the most tenable explanation there that is not clouded by a decision or a pre-conceived notion such as belief to explain how a specific phenomenon were to occur.And that is why it is true that there is much that goes beyond our ken but to surmise that this is the work of a god is to not further our understanding of a given occurrence or phenomenon.
Post edited January 10, 2013 by Lionel212008
Densetsu
zen
Registered: May 2012
From Slovenia
Posted January 10, 2013
"It is your right to believe about the evolution what you will."
Belief - is an interesting word that effectively alludes that a subject is to espouse a pre-conceived notion. It mires all objectivity. What you're are referring to is the observer effect since human beings by virtue of the psyche they carry would like to perceive order even if there is none.
To cite an analogy; not a very good one
Imagine if all the world, the universe and the cosmos were made of poop. Just different shades and forms of poop. Then the beings of poop would imagine that they were the cleanest, best smelling and the most perfect beings in existence since there would be nothing to show them otherwise.
" But, all knowledge the mankind supposedly has about the evolution is derived from the studies of lifeforms on Earth, which are the only form of existence that we officially know. Does that make the knowledge a fact? As you said for yourself, there (supposedly) are grander schemes of things."
There is no such thing as an absolute fact in science. It depends on a systematic body of evidence and follows an objective process of ratiocination to arrive at a conclusion. And it offers the most tenable explanation there that is not clouded by a decision or a pre-conceived notion such as belief to explain how a specific phenomenon were to occur.And that is why it is true that there is much that goes beyond our ken but to surmise that this is the work of a god is to not further our understanding of a given occurrence or phenomenon.
It was an objective viewpoint coming from a mindset different as your own.
As I said, to each his own.
Skystrider
Crazy collector
Registered: Sep 2008
From Norway
Posted January 10, 2013
What matters most is life itself, for it can only be found in one place. Gold, Platina, Titanium, Silver - all the stuff and materials you can name - all of it can be found in aboundance throughout the universe, but life... Life is only here, only now. Nothing matters but that which matters to ourselves and to each other. So value and nurture that which matters to you, and respect that which matters to others. That, to me, is what life is all about.
So what matters to me? - To live, to see, to think, to feel. To love all that is, and dream of all that may be.
So what matters to me? - To live, to see, to think, to feel. To love all that is, and dream of all that may be.
Post edited January 10, 2013 by Skystrider