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Posted December 18, 2012
Solution is as follows (requires a LOT of HDD space:
buy (or find) a copy of DVD fab
insert disk into drive
boot up DVD fab
wait while it loads and select proper region
select Blu-ray rip and then hit start
after completion, load .m2ts files in <insert player here>

PS: I got a fully-protected system that won't play BD's made past late 2009 (gives me a update loop) BUT using this method gives no problems
Posted December 18, 2012
As always, the Blu-ray (technology) is good, it has the best picture quality and that can´t be denied nor frown upon, but, the culprit here and the thing people should be blaming at is the same poison than plagues videogames and a long list of digital products, the dreaded DRM.

Those of us techsavvy enough could find a way, but what about the "muggles" ;P, they would be stuck with what they have.
Post edited December 18, 2012 by LoboBlanco
Posted December 18, 2012
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mxh178: netflix?
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bevinator: Netflix streaming has horrible selection and in many cases doesn't get you the quality that your connection should deserve. It's nice, of course, if you want to watch mediocre movies from two years ago, but it doesn't really compare. You're much better off having blurays delivered rather than streamed.
Interesting. HBO is more or less slaughtered here for not delivering the goods; bad selection, 12months binding, and best part - the quality is worse than dvd. Local IT consumer enforcement (for lack of better english name) has resently made them offer 1 month trial and 1month pay abo. Next round I guess would be to get them to deliver better quality.

Everyone was furious when they launched; "You know what you get from HBO", and couldn't deliver 1080, not even proper 720p.

But yes - when it comes too quality it's BluRay.
Post edited December 18, 2012 by sanscript
Posted December 18, 2012
I can back orcishgamer up on the AnyDVD HD recommendation. There might even be a thread on this site with me posting almost exactly the same thing. I was furious when I found out how useless my BRs were, but that program took care of the problem. I hated to pay for it, but ultimately I support what the software does and came to terms with shelling out for a good cause.
Posted December 18, 2012
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Heretic777: Just stream your movies from Netflix or Amazon and forget the whole Blu-ray crap.
The selection available on netflix and similar streaming services here in Denmark (and the rest of the world outside the US) is just terrible. Not comparable to blu-rays in any way.
Posted December 18, 2012
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sanscript: You're quite right... backups hasn't been my strongest point so I've constantly delayed that option, and only using dvd's for transfere and backup small things. Physical copies was more "hands on" before. Lately, I've started using HDD's more and the price has gone alittle lower since the flood, so its a good investment, after all.
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Navagon: Yeah, I've got loads of DVD-Rs. But at some point when money's a little bit less of a concern I want to get a couple more drives, put them in enclosures and just copy everything to them, so I've got that as well. Thinking about it though, I think I'll also need a lot more time on my hands too. :P
lol, know the feeling :D. I'm considering a prebuilt-NAS for that so I won't have to use so much time building one myself. But, yeah, It's time consuming. Don't know where I'm gonna start - because there's always something new to be backed up as well.
Posted December 18, 2012
You can try to use XBMC it uses some workaround to make Blu-Ray work with it that should bypass the copy protection.
Posted December 18, 2012
I play blu-rays on my PS3, so yeah I'm no help here.
Posted December 18, 2012
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orcishgamer: Alright. I'm pretty tech savvy, but this stuff is such a PITA it's easier to let someone else deal with the constant updates and headaches, Slysoft may be on a subscription model now, not sure, they kept threatening it back in the day, but I have lifetime keys for almost all their products, they are literally that easy. If you decide to try again from disk, I highly recommend giving AnyDVD HD a shot (this one removes copy protection and DRM on the fly as you do anything with the disk, which is super cool as your ripping program, or playback program doesn't even see the encryption, it's removed before it gets there!).
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PhoenixWright: I can back orcishgamer up on the AnyDVD HD recommendation. There might even be a thread on this site with me posting almost exactly the same thing. I was furious when I found out how useless my BRs were, but that program took care of the problem. I hated to pay for it, but ultimately I support what the software does and came to terms with shelling out for a good cause.
Thanks for the suggestions, I actually got the fucker to finally start up by using anyDVD HD AND Powerdvd. It's still a pain in the ass though, menus don't work and I can't seem to access any of the bonus tracks on the disc. Still better than nothing I guess, although I sure as hell ain't gonna pay 80€ for this thing.

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Darkcloud: You can try to use XBMC it uses some workaround to make Blu-Ray work with it that should bypass the copy protection.
I visited it's site, but there seemed to be no real information regarding blu rays, could you giv eme some more details about how it works?
Posted December 18, 2012
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WBGhiro: Optical drives may be obsolete for games, since steam and gog are around. But name me a service comparable to those two for movies.
Piratebay?

;-P
Posted December 18, 2012
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sanscript: lol, know the feeling :D. I'm considering a prebuilt-NAS for that so I won't have to use so much time building one myself. But, yeah, It's time consuming. Don't know where I'm gonna start - because there's always something new to be backed up as well.
Wow, really? That's certainly taking it up a level. I don't think I need THAT much. Just a couple of spacious drives should do it.
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WBGhiro: Optical drives may be obsolete for games, since steam and gog are around. But name me a service comparable to those two for movies.
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SimonG: Piratebay?

;-P
There's also Lovefilm and Netflix or whatever it's called. I've never used them myself but they're supposed to be reliable.

But yeah, when you get treated like this, piracy does become a matter of 'why the hell not?'
Post edited December 18, 2012 by Navagon
Posted December 18, 2012
To guys saying bullshit about Sony: What if I told you that your beloved DVD was invented by Sony? Same thing with CD. Don't even get me started with list of their patents you use every day.
Posted December 18, 2012
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SimonG: Piratebay?

;-P
Hearing that from you is like having a monk tell me it's okay to murder people.
Posted December 18, 2012
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WBGhiro: Hearing that from you is like having a monk tell me it's okay to murder people.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0245803/

;-)

Honestly, unless the movies industry won't get its head out of its arse, they don't need any protection. And it's not like movies are losing money. It took roughly ten years for mp3s being availble DRM free and with great service on Amazon. Shouldn't take much longer with movies.

As with games and music, piratebay will force the industry eventually in providing superior service, and not higher restrictions.
Posted December 18, 2012
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Navagon: If I was going to make backups of that size then I wouldn't use optical media. You're basically spending £5 on a disc. Hell of a thing to turn into a coaster. I'd say HDDs instead. Although that's not such a great investment since those floods. But even so, better than the alternatives.
BluRay is actually a really good option. Multi-layer disks now hold over 100GB if you need that much info in one place, and they most likely have a shelf life quite a bit longer than DVDs or CDs (so decades). Price per GB is much lower than rotational drives. Rotational drives have a 6-month failure rate of 20%, and an average lifespan of 2 years. Even unplugged, a hard drive is going to fail faster than an optical disk.
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