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General discussion (archive)What the heck is wrong with “Are you 18?”(41 posts)(41 posts)
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Posted February 27, 2014
I fear that I haven't been as obviously silly as I'd intended to be. Sorry.
Posted February 27, 2014
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Rohan15: There are two kinds of people in this world.
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bevinator: People who think there are two types of people in the world, and people who are smart enough to know better, right?
There are two kinds of assholes in this world. ;)
Posted February 27, 2014
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grimwerk: I fear that I haven't been as obviously silly as I'd intended to be. Sorry.
If you want to learn how to mock the idiocy that 'think of the children' generates, just watch the Simpsons!
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Rohan15: There are two kinds of assholes in this world. ;)
Absolutely true..... an anus and a stoma
Post edited February 27, 2014 by mystikmind2000
Posted February 27, 2014
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grimwerk: After decades of American legalese bullshit attached to every product under the sun, the legal system has recognized that nobody reads it, and anyone will blindly click 'I agree' or 'Okay' or 'Let's Go' or whatever it takes to move forward. So now we're obligated to actually enter a date, in the hopes that the requirement will actually register in our brain before we advance. Just remember, we do it all for the children. A pull-down menu is a compelling barrier, and keeps both pornography and gore out of elementary minds.
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mystikmind2000: To the extent that it prevents 'accidental' access, but it will never stop a determined child. For that you need parental controls on the individual computers they use.
Parental controls won't stop a determined child over the age of eight, or younger if they have an older sibling to learn from.

It turns out you can't get a computer to do the job of patenting your children for you.
Posted February 27, 2014
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gooberking: Even in a world where it is for some reason a legal necessity to create age gates to content that are about as difficult to get through as a beaded doorway, is there really any point in using the dial-a-lie method? Aren't we just trying to get people to say if they are or are not old enough for said content? It's a yes or no question, so why in the world is it standard practice to have three dropdowns to lock down a youtube video when a check box is good enough for all the legally binding EULA nonsense? I sure hope its not for statistical purposes, because while I'm long since old enough to do anything age restricted I can't say I have ever bothered doing it right. That is unless my birthday really is January, 1, whatever they hell I felt like clicking on.

It's just a ridiculous way of over complicating something that isn't particularly useful in the first place.

.............and rant over
If I was born on February 30, what now? :-)
Posted February 27, 2014
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gooberking: Even in a world where it is for some reason a legal necessity to create age gates to content that are about as difficult to get through as a beaded doorway, is there really any point in using the dial-a-lie method? Aren't we just trying to get people to say if they are or are not old enough for said content? It's a yes or no question, so why in the world is it standard practice to have three dropdowns to lock down a youtube video when a check box is good enough for all the legally binding EULA nonsense? I sure hope its not for statistical purposes, because while I'm long since old enough to do anything age restricted I can't say I have ever bothered doing it right. That is unless my birthday really is January, 1, whatever they hell I felt like clicking on.

It's just a ridiculous way of over complicating something that isn't particularly useful in the first place.

.............and rant over
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Protoss: If I was born on February 30, what now? :-)
You will need to be 72 to be old enough to watch anything, and by then they figure a 72 year old 18 year old probably couldn't handle it.
Post edited February 27, 2014 by gooberking
Posted February 27, 2014
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mystikmind2000: To the extent that it prevents 'accidental' access, but it will never stop a determined child. For that you need parental controls on the individual computers they use.
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ChrisSD: Parental controls won't stop a determined child over the age of eight, or younger if they have an older sibling to learn from.

It turns out you can't get a computer to do the job of patenting your children for you.
No, that's what TV is for!
Posted February 27, 2014
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mystikmind2000: No, that's what TV is for!
Okay now we're of one mind.
Posted February 27, 2014
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mystikmind2000: No, that's what TV is for!
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grimwerk: Okay now we're of one mind.
hehehe, and probably a 'few' other people!
Posted February 27, 2014
I think the main thing is that if its just a check box the person can claim that they missed the meaning or that the company made it too easy to bypass. If its an age wheel then they can say that the person intentionally lied to them since they gave false information. This puts them in the clear from lawsuits and the like.
Posted February 27, 2014
It's almost as if we've stumbled upon an ancient oath question, whereby if you answered truthfully, but in a way to disqualify yourself, you were somehow less qualified by said oath than if you had lied, to violate the very oath you had just sworn to, but by lying you were now approved.
Posted February 28, 2014
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Ixamyakxim: It's almost as if we've stumbled upon an ancient oath question, whereby if you answered truthfully, but in a way to disqualify yourself, you were somehow less qualified by said oath than if you had lied, to violate the very oath you had just sworn to, but by lying you were now approved.
A friend of my dad's once wanted to be a cop. One of the questions on the application was, "Have you ever smoked marijuana?" He figured that many people had, and being as he was starting a career as a policeman, he should be honest. He'd tried it years previously, so he checked "yes". Immediate rejection.

The question was certainly nominally valid, given the anti-drug madness of the time, but I wonder if there was a "you should be savvy enough to know when to lie" aspect to it.
Posted February 28, 2014
I don't get the reason of your rant? The time consumed to prove your age with online services?

To verify it is not a bot using the website and legal concerns of responsibility, "enter" or "exit". What else.
Posted February 28, 2014
Isn't there some videos on youtube where you should actually bother to sign in on there.. I mean even some game trailers I have seen like that. I have a youtube account but it's from year something and who want's to find those passwords.
Usually they are seen somewhere else without any hassle.
That birthday stuff doesn't really matter It's just second or two, well it could be also yes or no thing to save that other second from our ever so aging life.
Posted March 01, 2014
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gooberking: Even in a world where it is for some reason a legal necessity to create age gates to content that are about as difficult to get through as a beaded doorway, is there really any point in using the dial-a-lie method? Aren't we just trying to get people to say if they are or are not old enough for said content? It's a yes or no question, so why in the world is it standard practice to have three dropdowns to lock down a youtube video when a check box is good enough for all the legally binding EULA nonsense? I sure hope its not for statistical purposes, because while I'm long since old enough to do anything age restricted I can't say I have ever bothered doing it right. That is unless my birthday really is January, 1, whatever they hell I felt like clicking on.

It's just a ridiculous way of over complicating something that isn't particularly useful in the first place.

.............and rant over
i agree, and if anyone does analyze the claimed birthdays for statistical purposes, i think they will be amazed by just how many people were born on january 1st! that must be a very busy day for births every year. lol
Post edited March 01, 2014 by IT2013
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