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Sadnasser: Speaking of bloatware. Ever buy a laptop from HP? Hp stands for "Heaping Pile". Or so it seems. I ended up buying a clean version of XP because of the problems. It wasn't just Vista. It was the crap it came with (MY HP games, Norton, etc.). I couldn't get it all cleaned out and running well enouph.
Xp Rocks. Now my laptop runs WOW as good as my Vista Desktop.
(When I tried uninstalling Norton from my laptop I couldn't run videos from the Net any more.)

I bought Toshiba - the only manufacturer selling laptops without the OS ;)
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Sadnasser: Speaking of bloatware. Ever buy a laptop from HP? Hp stands for "Heaping Pile". Or so it seems. I ended up buying a clean version of XP because of the problems. It wasn't just Vista. It was the crap it came with (MY HP games, Norton, etc.). I couldn't get it all cleaned out and running well enouph.
Xp Rocks. Now my laptop runs WOW as good as my Vista Desktop.
(When I tried uninstalling Norton from my laptop I couldn't run videos from the Net any more.)

ha... that's nothing, try a Vaio
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ilves: ha... that's nothing, try a Vaio

Yeah, about that - can anyone please tell me what is the reason people are still buying those overpriced laptops? They have absolutely nothing all the other computers wouldn't have but they are considerably more expensive...
Post edited December 09, 2008 by sahib
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ilves: ha... that's nothing, try a Vaio
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sahib: Yeah, about that - can anyone please tell me what is the reason people are still buying those overpriced laptops? They have absolutely nothing all the other computers wouldn't have but they are considerably more expensive...

Brand and Looks would answer your question. Just look at the macbooks...
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Tserge: Brand and Looks would answer your question. Just look at the macbooks...

Well, macs are not the best comparison in my opinion. They're one of a kind - you cannot buy a Dell with Mac OS X. You CAN however choose from tens of laptop manufacturers selling Windows machines. Well, I was never one for fancy look - as long as it does what it's supposed to do, I'm happy. But to pay extra just for the looks...? And apart of that Sony is not one of the brands I hold in high regard ;)
If it runs on Vista, it most likely can run on Windows 7. I'm sure Microsoft has learnt that people LIKE COMPATIBLITY ever since the XP-Vista fiasco. I couldn't run half my drivers when I upgraded a year ago!
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Sadnasser: Speaking of bloatware. Ever buy a laptop from HP? Hp stands for "Heaping Pile". Or so it seems. I ended up buying a clean version of XP because of the problems. It wasn't just Vista. It was the crap it came with (MY HP games, Norton, etc.). I couldn't get it all cleaned out and running well enouph.
Xp Rocks. Now my laptop runs WOW as good as my Vista Desktop.
(When I tried uninstalling Norton from my laptop I couldn't run videos from the Net any more.)

I can attest to this. My HP laptop was filled with their garbage and it made Vista completely unstable. Even removing the crap didn't help that much (I wanted to avoid a format for various reasons). In the end I eventually had to reformat. After installing Vista without the HP crap everything ran just fine. Now if only I could remove this piece of shit Intel video chipset...
Vista, while having its own issues, is not the whole problem. The manufacturers did their fair share of damage to the image of the operating system with their shitty software. I've seen many a broken install of Windows 2000 and XP because of the same crap.