Being friendzoned has its perks (Well for me it does).

I've been going about this the completely wrong way. I've been telling women I want to get in their pants just so they'll let me love them. That explains the slapping.

I'm telling Marge...

How do you suppose I got Marge in the first place?

Well after watching pretty much every single document over your life over the course of 10 years, I noticed you picked her up at a Summer Camp, dance, and a school campaign...so no bs about you and wanting some ass.

It may be also that while she might not be sexually interested in you, still she'd like to keep you near (as a friend), and the new woman is a threat even to that. Thus, she tries to win you back any way she can.

so... what if our goal is to get in the "marriagezone"?

-_-

been there 3 times
friendzone sucks
but in the end the third girl is now my girlfriend, that only happened because she liked me back, otherwise it would be impossible.

If it's so much of a generalization, then where exactly are the women that aren't like that? I mean seriously, precisely how many women do I need to go through before we can agree that it isn't really much of a generalization.

At this point, I'm starting to feel pretty cheap being used for a cheap ego boost.

I have noticed that too, though. In most relationships, they make a big deal out of it when I don't say it back after a week or two three. It's not that there aren't guys who do the same, it's that nearly every girl I know does it and did it so quickly. For me, I need to mean it and girls force me to use it when I DON'T mean it and later slap it in my face. "How could you say that when you love me!!". I think either girls just need those words, expect them, or don't know the meaning behind them. Or maybe a combo.

Oh, and please folks, stop acting as if a generalization means EVERYONE in that groups does that. Is society so incapable of comparing two groups and saying "group A does it more than group B" without someone going "OMG not everyone in group A does it???". "Generalization" seems to be the "evil" word on forums these days which is, frankly, ridiculous.

I think it's generally known that girls say the "love you" words quicker than guys so it's pointless to go "well I know guys who do it too" because, well, who said there weren't guys? It's all about the ratios. There's no need to defend it - plenty of dumb stuff guys do too in general.


ABOUT FRIEND ZONES: fine, if you prefer me as a friend, I can accept that. What I can't accept, are the mind games that are often played.

Get a GF: your "friendzone" girl suddenly starts flirting with you. Seriously, you didn't want me before, stop causing drama and making my GF jealous FFS. I also once made the mistake of liking a girl only for a friendzone girl who I liked more to start coming on to me - the mistake I made was going for the friendzone girl even though she quickly lost interest once she saw she "had" me. *grumbles something about girls being more mature my ass*

They break up: don't use me as a replacement or suddenly notice me because you feel lonely. Honestly, I'm tired of this happening. Oh no, their bf for who they basically neglected and ignored you completely dumped them and acted like an ass, and that makes them suddenly like you ... until the next ass who comes along and makes their hearts melt. Rinse and repeat.

Guys do this just as much though, although I noticed that girls are more successful at it (aren't guys suckers?) - or maybe it's because it's easier for them to play the victim card?

Which reminds me of how quick people are to buy engagement rings these days. Either they don't know what it means, they have a different meaning to it altogether or they are so blinded by their so-called love that they are certain they'll live happily ever after.

I noticed that couples often rush into such things but not sure whether it's the girl or guy or both. I've had girls try and push me - them moving in with me for example. In a few examples, they even mentioned kids and marriage just a week or two after we got together.

I know some say that guys have commitment issues, but that's often nonsense really - it's about moving at the right pace. If I want to make sure the relationship is going to work, rushing it isn't going to do it any good. It has nothing to do with being afraid of committing and all about making sure you're doing the right thing.

The sister of my brother's ex dumped her boyfriend after three months because he wouldn't ask her to marry him. She had dropped a LOT of hints and he shrugged it off - and frankly, after just three months, it was wise to shrug it off. After dumping him, she got together with another guy and moved in with him after just two weeks. My brother's ex moved in with me and my brother (without even asking me) after three weeks. There's such things as "going too fast" if you barely even know eachother.

Well, if it works out that way. In my experience though it's a bit like fixing the toilet while the plumber has sex with your wife.

And it wouldn't be much of an issue if the folks that get friendzoned had any sort of assurance that at some point they'd get something out of the deal. Doing all the work and not getting anything out of it, just sucks. At least with men you have some idea what's going on.

EDIT: Personally, I'm planning to solve the problem by growing a bad boy Fu Manchu and muscling up. If I'm going to spend my time and energy cleaning up these messes, I'd like to at least get to cause one of them.
As long as you remember that marriage is evil, you should do fine.

Marriage would be more lawfully evilish if people would stick to a multi-year engagement. If they can do that and have had at least a few, I might not come back, fights then they're probably going to do fine with a marriage.

Well, I only said that people go and engage the shit out of each other without specifying which sex is more eager in these occasions. I don't really care, either.

I intend to remain unmarried. If she truly loves me, she should be able to do so without a seremony in a building that makes me uncomfortable, followed by an arbitrary institution that comes with no privileges and goes with an enormous administrative mess.