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Hey, it's surprisingly easy to fix. You just need to send the right signals to get the point across.

What are the right signals? I hear you ask. Well, I'll give you a hint; the human penis is shaped like, and can function quite nicely as a semaphore.

Hop to it.
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eno_m_koney: Relationships are overrated.

Computer games are awesome.
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This is the best definition of the friendzone I've come across.

Urban Dictionary: Just Friends
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Stuff: The "friendzone" is an issue only until you find the right woman . . . once found . . you will be casting the zone spell constantly to protect what you have from chaos and misery . . . =)
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EndlessKnight: Too true.

Is that a ninth level spell? I knew I should have taken 18 int instead of 17... :(
Awesome you two made my day with these comments!
The friend zone.
The shear, unrestrained, horror of someone wanting to be your friend, because it happens that you are awesome in a platonic sort of way, to them.

Never mind, if it makes you feel better she probable didn't find you attractive before she became friends with you either. And if that wasn't the case then it was just something born of ignorance and if you had gotten together it might not have lasted and that crushing inner pain might have just been worse.

Unless she's lying, but it's probable best not to assume she is lying about this and take it at face value.
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wodmarach: Ever notice about 40-50% of the time the second you get a new GF the friendzoner starts hitting on you and flirting again?
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AlKim: A potential explanation is that people who are in a relationship generally feel better and more confident than those are not. As a result someone who goes from friendzone depression to relationship happiness can become a lot more attractive to other men/women as well (including but certainly not limited to their ex).

Many people aren't stupid/smart/evil enough to do this, but it's also possible that your ex keeps you friendzoned because in truth they hate you and want to make your new relationship awkward and for your new partner to leave you, returning you to the state of a miserable turd.
That's probably part of it, also women seem to really want what they can't have. I've found invariably I can get any woman I want, so long as I don't express any interest at all.

Unfortunately, they tend not to be willing to do anything more than flirt which sort of pisses me off.

Also, what's the deal with women that are involved that flirt anyways? Seriously, that sucks even worse than the ones that want to just be friends.
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Wishbone: This is the best definition of the friendzone I've come across.

Urban Dictionary: Just Friends
I remember the one from bash. But, that 3rd one is pretty appropriate as well. I've noticed that women seem to throw around the love word with little to no appreciation for the gravity of it.

Men may not say it as often, but at least it typically means something.
Post edited September 19, 2011 by hedwards
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hedwards: Also, what's the deal with women that are involved that flirt anyways?
I'm not going to pretend like I would have any idea what I'm talking about (I'm still with my first girlfriend), but I'm still going to suggest that it's part of their natural demeanor.
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hedwards: Also, what's the deal with women that are involved that flirt anyways?
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AlKim: I'm not going to pretend like I would have any idea what I'm talking about (I'm still with my first girlfriend), but I'm still going to suggest that it's part of their natural demeanor.
Eh, that aspect alone is what drives me to not want anything to do with the women that flirt with me. It makes me feel cheap realizing that invariably when I bother to hit on one of them that she's in a relationship and didn't really mean it.

My standards aren't really that high, but I do expect that once we've been together for a while that she'll stop flirting with random strangers. I don't personally think that's asking too much.

Fortunately, in the modern era there is online dating. That at least is a bit safer. Might end up brutally murdered, but it's less likely that they'll ruin your life.

And no, I'm not hopelessly cynical, I've just known way too many women to think otherwise.
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AlKim: I'm not going to pretend like I would have any idea what I'm talking about (I'm still with my first girlfriend), but I'm still going to suggest that it's part of their natural demeanor.
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hedwards: Eh, that aspect alone is what drives me to not want anything to do with the women that flirt with me. It makes me feel cheap realizing that invariably when I bother to hit on one of them that she's in a relationship and didn't really mean it.

My standards aren't really that high, but I do expect that once we've been together for a while that she'll stop flirting with random strangers. I don't personally think that's asking too much.
I have also noticed that the naturally flirty ladies that I know tend to be single, and if they aren't for some reason, they will soon be (and not always of their own volition). You're not the only one who isn't going to put up with such women, and rightly so.
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hedwards: I remember the one from bash. But, that 3rd one is pretty appropriate as well. I've noticed that women seem to throw around the love word with little to no appreciation for the gravity of it.

Men may not say it as often, but at least it typically means something.
Woah, woah, woah. Way too much of a generalization here. There are plenty of guys who will tell a girl they love her just to get in her pants.

People are tricky and defy easy categories.
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AlKim: I'm not going to pretend like I would have any idea what I'm talking about (I'm still with my first girlfriend), but I'm still going to suggest that it's part of their natural demeanor.
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hedwards: Eh, that aspect alone is what drives me to not want anything to do with the women that flirt with me. It makes me feel cheap realizing that invariably when I bother to hit on one of them that she's in a relationship and didn't really mean it.

My standards aren't really that high, but I do expect that once we've been together for a while that she'll stop flirting with random strangers. I don't personally think that's asking too much.

Fortunately, in the modern era there is online dating. That at least is a bit safer. Might end up brutally murdered, but it's less likely that they'll ruin your life.

And no, I'm not hopelessly cynical, I've just known way too many women to think otherwise.
Women like to feel that they are still attractive to the opposite sex even though they may be in a relationship.

How many of you have noticed that women behave very much like cats? As in if you dislike cats they're all over you like white on rice but the second you pay any attention to them you just see them scatter like roaches. The best way to not get into the friend zone in the first place is to tease then ignore the hell out of the woman you are seeking. Nothing gets to them worse than someone not paying attention to them :D.
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JudasIscariot: Nothing gets to them worse than someone not paying attention to them :D.
Ye-e-e-s-s-s... You can get sudden outburst of hysterical screaming out of them if you keep this up long enough. It's hilarious.
I'm in/out of relationships often enough that I don't really feel bad about breaking up like that.

But then again, the "friend" part of the statement doesn't really count. I hadn't had any real contact with any of the girls after breaking up, so it's either a die-hard friend or a past "acquaintance".
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JudasIscariot: Nothing gets to them worse than someone not paying attention to them :D.
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grviper: Ye-e-e-s-s-s... You can get sudden outburst of hysterical screaming out of them if you keep this up long enough. It's hilarious.
They especially hate it when you tell them you don'[t really need them because you can always provide your own entertainment :D.
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JudasIscariot: Nothing gets to them worse than someone not paying attention to them :D.
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grviper: Ye-e-e-s-s-s... You can get sudden outburst of hysterical screaming out of them if you keep this up long enough. It's hilarious.
Damn straight. As someone who's a firm believer in the school of thought that if she'll pursue me just for ignoring her, there's nothing stopping her doing the same to someone else as soon as I acknowledge her existence, I have to say watching the stupid fucks begging to be noticed sometimes for several years on end is quite an amusing thing to watch. This applies fourfold if she's the type who'll never make any direct moves because she thinks the male always has to make the first move (and most likely pay for everything), regardless of who's interested first.

Why yes, I am rather cynical about this sort of thing.