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Posted November 28, 2014
Two Worlds series, Earth 2100s saga, Septerra Core, and other tremendous Topware titles 70% off!

</a>This weekend, we offer you GOG's entire TopWare catalog 70% off, with many games updated recently with cool bonus content.

Fans of magical worlds and heroic fantasy need to dive right into Two Worlds: Epic Edition, one of the finest action-RPGs in recent history, with a lush, vast gameworld, and an engaging plot. The Epic Edition includes both of the game's expansions: Tainted Blood and Curse of Souls, the FLAC/MP3 soundtrack, and many more goodies. If you prefer your fiction more scientific then Earth 2140 Trilogy, Earth 2150 Trilogy, and Earth 2160will deliver top-notch RTS gameplay in a gritty futuristic setting. The more adventurous RPG buffs should take Septerra Core: Legacy of the Creator for a lengthy spin, the game combines jRPG-inspired design with a steampunk setting to great effect.

Of course, that's not all of the fantastic titles you can find 70% off in our Tip Top TopWare offering this weekend, so make sure to visit the promo page and pick your favorites. The offer lasts until Tuesday, December 2, at 3:59AM GMT.
Posted November 28, 2014
Almost own every games from this promo except Two Worlds 2: Epic Edition and Jack Orlando .
Posted November 28, 2014
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vulchor: ...
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Leroux: I doubt a boycott will help matters, since apparantly TopWare filed for bankruptcy in September 2014, which is probably the reason they tried to cheat their way out of paying their debts to begin with ...
Maybe that's one of the reasons GOG's holding this sale, in case the games go to different owners after this and some get removed. Between these games being here since the 6th day of Creation, Topware's "shenanigans" mentioned in one of the first post, and coming off the big Fall sale, I doubt much revenue will be made. (Or maybe GOG is also waiting for bank accounts to refill.)

Obligatory "Here's hoping for, finally, more LucasArts classics next week, maybe even TIE Fighter '95, X-Wing '94, SoMI original game, and uncompressed audio in Indy Jones and S&M" post.
Posted November 29, 2014
I wish there was a "Two Worlds: Too Epic Edition"
Posted November 29, 2014
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vulchor: I will not be partaking in this sale at all. This sale kind of in poor taste in my opinion considering this boycott was listed under community features just a week ago.

http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/take_topware_interactive_games_off_gog

I will never purchase another game of theirs. I'm glad that P1na already linked to the thread discussing their evil corporate ways.
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Leroux: I doubt a boycott will help matters, since apparantly TopWare filed for bankruptcy in September 2014, which is probably the reason they tried to cheat their way out of paying their debts to begin with ...
A subsidiary of TopWare filed for bankruptcy, not the publisher. The comments on the website previously linked explains that.
TopWare's most recent victim posted this about the bankruptcy

"Thanks for the information! We did check with our lawyer and it appears it's a daughter company to Topware Interactive AG which is insolvent. If they were to become insolvent too, the good news is we would finally get our game back... "

I'd wait for further confirmation to find out if the whole company is going under or just that subsidiary.

From: http://gamasutra.com/blogs/PugetAlain/20141118/230420/Nearly_Ripped_off_to_death_by_a_publisher__Get_better_by_yourself_and_wait_for_justice_Maybe.php
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Posted November 29, 2014
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Leroux: Not that I know of. And I usually play games on Normal difficulty. I didn't think Easy made the game too easy, just more enjoyable; but YMMV. Anyway, I'd say read a few other reviews, too; just because I thought it was great, doesn't necessarily mean everyone will think it's a great game. Then again, it's definitely worth the current asking price. ;)
I've already had the game in my library for a while, so it's only a question of whether and when I'll finally try it out. After reading that article about the publisher, I wouldn't really want to support them with money. :(
Posted November 29, 2014
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Leroux: Not that I know of. And I usually play games on Normal difficulty. I didn't think Easy made the game too easy, just more enjoyable; but YMMV. Anyway, I'd say read a few other reviews, too; just because I thought it was great, doesn't necessarily mean everyone will think it's a great game. Then again, it's definitely worth the current asking price. ;)
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CharlesGrey: I've already had the game in my library for a while, so it's only a question of whether and when I'll finally try it out. After reading that article about the publisher, I wouldn't really want to support them with money. :(
Then be glad you already bought it. :) Enclave is a nice game by a cool studio (Starbreeze), and it would be a shame if it's overlooked just because the license for it is currently owned by the wrong publisher.
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Posted November 29, 2014
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Leroux: I doubt a boycott will help matters, since apparantly TopWare filed for bankruptcy in September 2014, which is probably the reason they tried to cheat their way out of paying their debts to begin with ...
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tfishell: Maybe that's one of the reasons GOG's holding this sale, in case the games go to different owners after this and some get removed. Between these games being here since the 6th day of Creation, Topware's "shenanigans" mentioned in one of the first post, and coming off the big Fall sale, I doubt much revenue will be made. (Or maybe GOG is also waiting for bank accounts to refill.)
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vulchor: A subsidiary of TopWare filed for bankruptcy, not the publisher. The comments on the website previously linked explains that.
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I'd wait for further confirmation to find out if the whole company is going under or just that subsidiary.
I think tfishell might be on to something here. Even if it's just a subsidiary going under, GOG may be playing it safe and giving us what might be a last chance to get most of those games. Or it can be a coincidence. Either way, at least one of those games should continue in GOG regardless, Gorky 17 is from Metropolis Software, which is part of CD Projekt.
Post edited November 29, 2014 by Tannath
Posted November 29, 2014
Gorky 17 is interesting me. I read about a couple technical problems in this thread, that's not great.
How is its gameplay?
I guess it's like the UFO After-X games?

If the game is basically fun, then I would put the coins in :)
Post edited November 29, 2014 by gamefood
Posted November 29, 2014
Earth 2160's activation woes were the first of 2-3 incidents that turned me into an anti-DRM zealot so if the publisher is going down in flames I suppose I ought to snap it up just in case. A personal copy that survives the demise of the franchise itself would be a rather delicious epilogue to to this particular origin story.
Posted November 29, 2014
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Leroux: Then be glad you already bought it. :) Enclave is a nice game by a cool studio (Starbreeze), and it would be a shame if it's overlooked just because the license for it is currently owned by the wrong publisher.
Yeah, good games deserve to be played, and good developers deserve to be supported, and it's a shame when publisher shenanigans interfere with that. In those cases I'd suggest to download the game somewhere and donate money directly to the developer if possible, to reward them for their work, while leaving out the publisher.

Anyway, I have a massive backlog of games ( like most users here ) but I'll keep Enclave in mind, next time I'm in the mood for that sort of game. Thanks for pointing it out!
Posted November 29, 2014
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gamefood: Gorky 17 is interesting me. I read about a couple technical problems in this thread, that's not great.
How is its gameplay?
I guess it's like the UFO After-X games?

If the game is basically fun, then I would put the coins in :)
It reminded me of final fantasy PSX era actually - though you also move your characters over a square grid during the tirn based combat.
Posted November 29, 2014
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Ghorpm: Earth 2140 is not that bad, I've just recently finished it along with expansions (playing as ED). I can't comment on compatibility issues because I own a retail version of "Earth Universe" (compilation of all Earth titles + expansions).

You just have to keep in mind that this game was released in late 90s when a lot of RTS games were made. Few of them were truly bad, and just a few really great. Most of them were just average. I bet each of us can name a lot of them: Dark Reign; Dark Colony; Krush, Kill ‘n’ Destroy; War Wind; War Inc... Earth 2140 is not different. Each of those games had something special that could make it a great experience for some people. In Earth 2140 I enjoy stealing technologies and using helicopters to transport your soldiers behind enemy's base, so that they can take down some buildings to switch off main turrets. Then your main army can easily crash the rest.

The drawbacks are very typical though. Rock, paper, scissors, older armies are redundant, missions' objective: destroy your opponent (90% of them and even if it's more complex in practice you'll have to eliminate your opponent's base anyway). So yeah, typical RTS from that era.

To be honest I only replayed it because late 90s is one of the best periods in my life so playing games that I played then is a great way to bring back those memories. I doubt I would play it otherwise so get this game only if you really like early RTS games.
Thanks for the quick review Ghorphm, I really like early RTS games but missed out on this one.
Posted November 29, 2014
I was about to buy Gorky 17, then I remembered this thread (and I noticed many others before me remembered it as well).

Since I am living a very similar situation right now, there is absolutely no chance that I will give my money to those vile bloodsuckers.
I already fed too many beasts of that kind with my hard-earned money: I will NEVER help them again.
Supporting THAT kind of business would make me just as rotten as them.
Since they seem to have gone bankrupt, I hope to see Gorky 17 published here by another company at a later date. That day, I will add it to my library.
Posted November 30, 2014
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gamefood: Gorky 17 is interesting me. I read about a couple technical problems in this thread, that's not great.
How is its gameplay?
I guess it's like the UFO After-X games?

If the game is basically fun, then I would put the coins in :)
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Sachys: It reminded me of final fantasy PSX era actually - though you also move your characters over a square grid during the tirn based combat.
Was it fun for you to playing it?
Do you (or someone else) know the Jagged Alliance 2 / Wildfire game? Assuming JA 2 would be a 10 (highest mark), which one would you give to Gorky 17?
Posted November 30, 2014
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gamefood: Do you (or someone else) know the Jagged Alliance 2 / Wildfire game? Assuming JA 2 would be a 10 (highest mark), which one would you give to Gorky 17?
The games are nothing alike save the alternated real-time exploration (quite barebones in case of Gorky 17) and turn-based combat.

Gorky 17 is, in practice, more puzzle-like : combat is grid-based and weapons have patterns of attack instead of pure range ; that is, for instance some guns can only fire orthogonally, some only diagonally, some both but with a minimum range, etc. Enemies behave the same, which makes for a more chess-like combat.
The fact that the grid is made of squares kind of reinforces that, as is the fact that all fights are set pieces : you can't place your troops beforehand and battles start out of the blue, jRPG-like. So if the scripts dictates that you will be ambushed, you'll be ambushed. If the script dictates that somehow your troops are suddenly a board apart before combat begins, so be it.

All in all a fun game for a playthrough, with some battles providing quite decent challenge. Just be forewarned and don't go in expecting Jagged Alliance or Silent Storm. Maybe a more apt comparison, mutatis mutandis, would be Nintendo Wars.
Post edited November 30, 2014 by Erich_Zann
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