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keeveek: Giving up after pilot episode is the worst possible choice, if you wanted to watch the show.

Pilot episodes are often the worst (sometimes the best) of the entire season. 3-4 episodes is the best to see how the story is developped.
Nah. Sometimes it's hate at first sight. But as I said. if it's a show with a overarcing plot then most of the first season is needed.
Maaan... I would've missed so many great shows if I had quit them because I hated the pilot episode :-)
First season started out great and petered away into nothing, second series I kept watching it, waiting for something to happen, but it just built up to a big (but boring) battle where Herchel had a magic shotgun that never ran out of ammo. It was only OK, I felt the series never achieved its full potential. Some of the characters were beyond annoying.

I believe the original writer left, so maybe it lost its direction because of that.
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keeveek: Maaan... I would've missed so many great shows if I had quit them because I hated the pilot episode :-)
That's because you haven't trained your Shit Detection skill to as high level as me. :P
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DodoGeo: As I said too much free time, but the first one was OK lasting only six episodes.
Won't bother with season 3, maybe I'll try the comics as people claim how superior they are.
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keeveek: Ok, I see. I didn't mean to insult you, if you feel offended, then I'm sorry.

Let me introduce to you golden "3 (or 4) episodes rule". If show / season still sucks after 3-4 episodes, quit watching :P It works every time, maybe not for second seasons, because you give more credit to the show you liked before, but for new shows? It always works.
No offense taken, it just that I love the genre and have watched everything zombie related and considering the hype I had high hopes for this one.
Somehow you hope for shit to hit the fan and to get the thing rolling, the reason I consider looking into comics was that chick with 2 chained zombies at the end.

I had the same issue with Battlestar Galactica, it started out great. The pilot and first season were an action packed hard core science fiction series great as an alternative to the sterile Star Trek, but it devolved into such drivel to the end.
I reckon that season 1 was fairly okay...it was a bit tedious in parts but I liked the finale.

As for season 2, every character on the show was turning out to be a generic stereotype or an annoying douche such as

1)sanctimonious and somewhat dimwitted sheriff
2)surgeon with a low iq, old world values and and a penchant for zombie pets
3)menopausal wife whose probably bearing someone else's kid
4)menopausal and delusional old woman \
5)Sucidal and delusional white blonde
6)Bad boy who was slowly becoming an even more annoying douche and was thankfully killed off in the end
7)Your stereotypical black guy
8)The red neck was the only character who was somewhat likable despite having his favourite pastime as gutting squirrels and other dead farm animals including zombies.

It was slowly turning out to be the most obnoxious television drama ever with the occasional zombie turning up to remind you that it's a show about zombies - heaven forbid were there an actual zombie apocalypse you were stuck with a bunch of these assholes - To tell you the truth when the horde showed up at the end I actually rooted for the hungry lil' fellas....
Post edited May 13, 2012 by Lionel212008
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DodoGeo: the reason I consider looking into comics was that chick with 2 chained zombies at the end.
Oh man, for me it's totally opposite. I loved the comics until Michonne appeared. After her, comics began to be more and more riddiculous.

The reason I liked Walking Dead was because it was realistic. It was something like apocalypse/zombie survival, something really beliveable.

But then Michonne happened. Governor happened. Amputees happened. I'm glad I quit reading comics..
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Lionel212008: It was slowly turning out to be the most obnoxious television drama ever with the occasional zombie turning up to remind you that it's a show about zombies - heaven forbid were there an actual zombie apocalypse you were stuck with a bunch of these assholes - To tell you the truth when the horde showed up at the end I actually rooted for the hungry lil' fellas....
Dude, this is what would happen if zombie apocalypse happened. You would search for a place AWAY from the zombies to live there.

Also, this is NOT a show about zombies. You should've learned that after two seasons already.
Post edited May 13, 2012 by keeveek
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keeveek: ... The reason I liked Walking Dead was because it was realistic . It was something like apocalypse/zombie survival, something really beliveable.

But then Michonne happened. Governor happened. Amputees happened. I'm glad I quit reading comics..
Same here. I understand the series have to follow the comics plot, but it saddens me that realism is to be gradually disappearing.

We'll see what happens with the movie that Hollywood is going to do about the book "World War Z" by Max Brooks (I recommend it to anyone who has not read yet). I hope they do not spoil it, because realism is a driving force of the book, from how it tells the story(journalistic style) to how detailed is its account of the consequences of the worldwide plague.
I wouldn't go so far as making an allusion that the show actually depicts what would happen in the event of an actual zombie apocolypse. There are several things that are quite unrealistic about the show
1)It's kind of strange the group agrees upon a consensus to not use guns since gunshots apparently attract the walking dead. However a harley davidson or a revving hummer does not begin to attract the horde...which is strange.
2)You wouldn't actually be able to steal fuel off a vehicle that has been laying dormant for months together...fuel is only usable for so long
3)This is with every on screen depiction where if some bloke is shot then there is a pressing need to remove the bullet.....which is actually a load of bs.it's much safer to stop the bleeding since a bullet isn't actually made of venom and removing one would tear up blood vessels that could prove to be fatal
4)You might say I am nitpicking here but I find the show characters to be largely two dimensional by mid-season....the first season wasn't great but it had promise.You cannot actually begin to empathize with the characters since they are not very likable
5)Until now the series fails to capture the turmoil or the sense of paranoia or absolute dread that you would have if the dead actually came back to life. I never for once felt any sense of trepidation
6)I expect to see an actual sense of decadence, not only in the world but with the characters as well and I am glad that's what starting to show in the season finale.....I t hink at our beases level we all like zombies becausethey showcase the worst of what humanity can offer. It's a summation of all our fears...
7)The show fails to engage you with the characters....my problem is not with the depiction of a zombie apocalypse which I think is very well done but that the show until now has failed to create engaging characters or personalities and this is where the comic book is superior. I am not sure if it has to do with the medium of televeision being a limitation or me as a discerning viewer. Perhaps it's might have something to do with the length of the show.
8)To see a series that concerns itself with a zombie apocalypse done right check out the stellardead set(faster zombies but creates that sense of paranoia and dread very well or the machinima web series "Bite me" while not perfect is a fun zombie romp.

I am sure what the series writers have in mind.Perhaps it was just a build up a to a thrilling finale but while the walking dead is watchable I do think it's quite overrated.



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DodoGeo: the reason I consider looking into comics was that chick with 2 chained zombies at the end.
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keeveek: Oh man, for me it's totally opposite. I loved the comics until Michonne appeared. After her, comics began to be more and more riddiculous.

The reason I liked Walking Dead was because it was realistic. It was something like apocalypse/zombie survival, something really beliveable.

But then Michonne happened. Governor happened. Amputees happened. I'm glad I quit reading comics..
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Lionel212008: It was slowly turning out to be the most obnoxious television drama ever with the occasional zombie turning up to remind you that it's a show about zombies - heaven forbid were there an actual zombie apocalypse you were stuck with a bunch of these assholes - To tell you the truth when the horde showed up at the end I actually rooted for the hungry lil' fellas....
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keeveek: Dude, this is what would happen if zombie apocalypse happened. You would search for a place AWAY from the zombies to live there.

Also, this is NOT a show about zombies. You should've learned that after two seasons already.
Post edited May 16, 2012 by Lionel212008
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Lionel212008: ...
1) I've always been amused by this sort of thing, every time.
2 & 3) Did not know these facts.
5) While it is not the general rule, there are times I do feel this trepidation: the scene of the tank, or the zombie horde on the highway, for example.
4, 6 & 7) is a shame that there seems not to be enough talent or interest to build more deep and believable characters.
8) I've seen "Dead Set" (and I agree with you on its ability to convey the paranoia and sense of powerlessness against the disaster). I did not know the "Bite me" machinime. I will research further on it based on your recommendation.

You see, I agree with most of your points (well argued!). However, I consider that the series (so far) is more realistic compared to the typical movie/comic with the bad-ass zombie killer guy or girl *cough* Resident Evil movies *cough* that is often all that is offered to us. It's great that the relations between the survivors are as important or more than their fight against the zombies (although the way of telling is far from perfect).
I ain't saying that the show is bad but yea I guess it could have been better - a lot better.


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Lionel212008: ...
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thespian9099: 1) I've always been amused by this sort of thing, every time.
2 & 3) Did not know these facts.
5) While it is not the general rule, there are times I do feel this trepidation: the scene of the tank, or the zombie horde on the highway, for example.
4, 6 & 7) is a shame that there seems not to be enough talent or interest to build more deep and believable characters.
8) I've seen "Dead Set" (and I agree with you on its ability to convey the paranoia and sense of powerlessness against the disaster). I did not know the "Bite me" machinime. I will research further on it based on your recommendation.

You see, I agree with most of your points (well argued!). However, I consider that the series (so far) is more realistic compared to the typical movie/comic with the bad-ass zombie killer guy or girl *cough* Resident Evil movies *cough* that is often all that is offered to us. It's great that the relations between the survivors are as important or more than their fight against the zombies (although the way of telling is far from perfect).
What's the consensus on the first episode? Just started watching it myself!
Didn't like the opening scene thus far, but hey, I'm probably just being prissy.
Found the first season okay-ish, with the exception of the last ridicule resident-evil-ish episode. The second season is spectacularly lame though. Incredibly annoying. A waste of time.

The comics keep impressing me, on the other hand.
Of course not, it's a cashin off the incredible comic. As a generic zombie flic where it takes forever for anything to happen, it's alright. Problem is, The Walking Dead is about as much about zombies as Watchmen is about superheroes.