So you are saying the every comic book fluff movie is automatically entertaining?

Guaranteed, most critics are smart enough to know GL is mindless fluff. Question is whether it is good mindless fluff or bad mindless fluff. And I have seen plenty of mindless fluff movies that are simply not entertaining.

Normally yes, but sometimes not so much.

Just look at DNF, it's getting all sorts inappropriate and unprofessional reviews right now. Allowing those sorts of reviews to propagate when professionals have to wait to play the game is hardly good for anybody. Reviews are first and foremost about helping the reader decide whether or not to buy the game. Spending 3/4 of space bashing a game without giving the reader any particular justification is hardly something that's going to help a reader decide whether or not to buy.

This isn't like film reviews where the individual has at least gone to film school if not actually worked making films. These are people who probably haven't even had a single journalism class.

I suspect that the Green Lantern film will in all likelihood be the typical, please don't review it because it sucks, but who knows. EDIT: In large part because film reviewers are typically professionals, whether or not a person agrees with their opinion, they've at least got some idea as to whether or not the film is likely to be of interest.

I think you're letting your blind desire for DNF to be good block you from the truth of the matter.

It's common practice for the games industry to have review embargoes. Many good and bad games have an embargo placed on them, iirc even The Witcher 2 had one.

its funny how dc only has batman movies performing great.

superman did alright but not enough to warrant a sequel, Xex was a flop and now GL is sitting on a shaky ground.

while marvel had iron man, thor, hulk, xmen, wolverine.... all which made lots of monies and now captain is coming out and afterwards we are getting motherfucking avengers.


i still want my batman/superman movie!!

What blows my mind is the quality of the DC Animated Universe. It's often better than the comics, it's certainly been better than the movies (yes, even better than Nolan's OMG Imagination Is Icky attempts), and have been consistently since Batman: TAS came out in 1993.

In fact, you want a good Green Lantern movie, go watch Green Lantern: First Flight. It's got the guy who played Angel on Buffy as Hal Gordan, and Number 6 from the new BSG is in it too as whoever.

None of the new ones I've enjoyed much. Armageddon, the Batman & Superman: Public Enemies (when you make Superman out to be the villain and Lex Luthor right, by complete accident, you've done screwed up, movie), Wonder Woman. The animation and artwork all look fantastic, but the stories are terrible.

I'd also highly recommend Superman: TAS. I'm going back through that one right now.

Off , but Hungary will get the newest Warner Bros. films later than in other parts of the world . The reason : piracy .

http://hatc.hu/editor_article.php?aid=3370

It's because reviewers often get games in advance to be able to really play them, not only to skim them and write solid review. Then of course someone still could finish it quickly to crank out review first from all. In such case it's quite understandable to plyce embargo on the game until it gets released.

There are many reasons to place an embargo, not just to force solid reviews. That wasn't really the point of my comment though. It was simply correcting someone who made the assumption that if a game has a review embargo then it is bad, that can certainly be the case but it is indicative of the reasons for an embargo.

I don't want to feed the obvious troll, so I'll reply to you instead.

I think that's sort of the point. Sometimes when a game or movie is made which has a significant adoption by hipsters or comic geeks it can also attract a certain element that's going to be both unhappy and vocally unhappy about it no matter what the end product is. And it's relatively easy for those folks to crowd out the people that are happy with the result or more meh in opinion.

From the mixed reviews I've seen, DNF seems to be a case. The positive reviews are the reviews I've seen where the critics have actually attempted to review the game rather than trying to pass off an editorial as a review.

When it comes to the Green Lantern, I have a feeling that if they were really trying to cover up a bad film, that they would have allowed the critics to release their reviews weeks or even a month before the movie came out and then just buried those reviews under a mountain of advertising. Sort of the way that the recording industry covers for the fact that 90% or more of mainstream music is garbage.

Which was the main reason I posted in this thread about DNF. It's a good example of why studios sometimes do embargoes. There's a game with a lot of very opinionated fans that aren't all in agreement as to the quality, and I think it's fair not to ruin it for the rest of us prior to getting our hands on it. I doubt that it's the game that Broussard wanted to make, but from the few people I've heard from that have played with it, the reviewers have been mostly completely off.

I say that if they can save me from getting lost in a sea of bad reviews with an embargo, go for it. Although it's much less of a problem with movies where people actually need to have qualifications to review. At least for major outlets.
To be fair Marvel had more than its share of flops from the X-Men series. I haven't seen all of them, but I know that X2 and X3 were both completely terrible and probably shouldn't have been released. And I think Wolverine was the other one that was pretty much a waste. Hopefully the First class is going to be as awesome as it appears.

X2 and X3 should have been slam dunks, but they were a complete mess anyways.

The Witcher 2 is a long game. DNF is a short game, and went gold something like a month before release. That's plenty of time for reviewers to fairly evaluate the game.

Oh please. To you, the good reviews are the ones that agree with your (unfounded as of yet) opinion and the bad ones are the ones that disagree with you. Isn't that awfully convenient?

How do they make these embargos? Do they say dont publish or we will never send you review copies?

Basically they say not to publish before a certain time or they won't invite them to press events and screenings.