Posted February 21, 2014
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dnovraD
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SlyFox
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Registered: Dec 2011
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Posted February 21, 2014
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If they don't, people will simply use a VPN to bypass it and create an account in the preferred country.
Then the publisher will push GOG to put DRM in anyway to stop that.
With that, all the differentially good point of GOG will be gone, and there wouldn't be much difference between gog and steam except steam do pretty much everything else better.
At that point, there is absolutely no reason to use GOG anymore and most people will stay with steam.
Post edited February 21, 2014 by SlyFox
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Sachys
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Registered: Dec 2011
From United Kingdom
Posted February 21, 2014
Okay, some words need serious change in the language - I misread this as "Vaginal Pricing".
I agree on the regional pricing point though - much as GOG seems to want to make it fair by providing free games to those affected... doesn't work for me.
I agree on the regional pricing point though - much as GOG seems to want to make it fair by providing free games to those affected... doesn't work for me.
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dada_dave
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Posted February 21, 2014
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My guess is that is why they were willing to sign such deals - many AAA studios and smaller publishers sign such physical distribution deals which force them to accept regional pricing on digital games to match physical games and since they are AAA, they want to sell physical copies too so they take the deal. That means a lot them can't sell AAA games with one world pricing even if they wanted too.
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If many people refuses that, then the AAA publisher themselves will be forced to adapt and not us.
Keep in mind regional pricing done right *could* be the most fair pricing solution for everyone - even more fair than the one world price by charging everyone according to their purchasing power rather than exchange rate. But that's not what's happened in practice with regional pricing and unless GOG is going to do something radical on that front (which seems unlikely given their statements though I remain hopeful), it's going to remain unfair for a lot of people.
Post edited February 21, 2014 by crazy_dave
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Cormoran
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Posted February 21, 2014
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I wonder how long until GOG throws away it's goals of DRM free in pursuit of profit. Slowly but surely, it's looking like I might as well just use Steam, the only difference is going to be the added convenience Valves platform provides.
Post edited February 21, 2014 by Cormoran
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zavlin
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Posted February 21, 2014
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If they don't, people will simply use a VPN to bypass it and create an account in the preferred country.
Then the publisher will push GOG to put DRM in anyway to stop that.
With that, all the differentially good point of GOG will be gone, and there wouldn't be much difference between gog and steam except steam do pretty much everything else better.
At that point, there is absolutely no reason to use GOG anymore and most people will stay with steam.
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dada_dave
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Posted February 21, 2014
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If they don't, people will simply use a VPN to bypass it and create an account in the preferred country.
Then the publisher will push GOG to put DRM in anyway to stop that.
With that, all the differentially good point of GOG will be gone, and there wouldn't be much difference between gog and steam except steam do pretty much everything else better.
At that point, there is absolutely no reason to use GOG anymore and most people will stay with steam.
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No I don't think GOG will implement DRM, but then the regional pricing is a joke and basically unenforceable. That's why people are saying it's an "in" for DRM because without it, regional pricing can't actually be enforced.
Post edited February 21, 2014 by crazy_dave
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zavlin
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Posted February 21, 2014
I honestly dont know about that. The witcher 2 did it around the same time they started selling new games, so it shouldnt come as a shock, or have been considered somthing impossible to happen.
i get that, but again, i trust that gog has done the research to determine which companies this decision wins them points with, and whether this is "enough". I suspect its companies like daedalic, and other indie smaller studios that gog wants to win back some support from, and not the giant publishers who will just say "enforce it with drm!"
i get that, but again, i trust that gog has done the research to determine which companies this decision wins them points with, and whether this is "enough". I suspect its companies like daedalic, and other indie smaller studios that gog wants to win back some support from, and not the giant publishers who will just say "enforce it with drm!"
Post edited February 21, 2014 by zavlin
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SlyFox
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Posted February 21, 2014
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No I don't think GOG will implement DRM, but then the regional pricing is a joke and basically unenforceable. That's why people are saying it's an "in" for DRM because without it, regional pricing can't actually be enforced.
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SlyFox
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Adding new games , DLC, episodes and so on has no logical reason to introduce DRM unlike regional pricing.
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zavlin
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As for cdpr losing in court, wasnt that about drm on the patch they made for retail copies?
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StingingVelvet
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Registered: Nov 2008
From United States
Posted February 21, 2014
I'm not for banning all regional pricing. Regional pricing is often a good thing, like the cheap prices for Russian territories on Steam, or charging more in certain countries where the economy is different.
I am for refusing BAD regional pricing, however.
I am for refusing BAD regional pricing, however.
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dada_dave
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Posted February 21, 2014
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As for cdpr losing in court, wasnt that about drm on the patch they made for retail copies?
GOG is introducing regional pricing hoping that the AAA companies will come here - a lot of the "smaller" AAA companies are forced into distribution deals that include regional pricing (as CDPR was) and thus don't have a choice and the larger companies are the same distributors who insist on regional pricing for newer games. GOG is stating that a number of companies that have refused to sign with GOG have done so because of regional pricing issues rather than DRM issues. However, a number of companies also won't be happy that the regional pricing is unenforceable on GOG without DRM. Now I don't think that pressure will be enough for GOG to relent on DRM-free gaming, but I didn't think the pressure would be enough for them to relent on regional pricing either.
I agree regional pricing *could* be the most fair solution for everyone (even better than GOG's one world price), but isn't for many, many countries ...
Post edited February 21, 2014 by crazy_dave
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shoveling
Hokuto no yaoi
Registered: Apr 2012
From United States
Posted February 21, 2014
Well, I hate DRM... very much.
I just figure that gog will do the region thing, and will not bother stopping people from bypassing it, just like they do not stop pirates now. Just do the bare minimum to get them games on here.
I just figure that gog will do the region thing, and will not bother stopping people from bypassing it, just like they do not stop pirates now. Just do the bare minimum to get them games on here.